Numbers don't lie...

WHO_DAT_CAT · 01-09-2012, 10:10 PM

Just testing the smilies

WHO_DAT_CAT · 01-09-2012, 10:11 PM

:laughing:

:fan:

WHO_DAT_CAT · 01-09-2012, 10:11 PM

:rollmao:

saintfan · 01-09-2012, 10:11 PM

I know. She's absolutely fantastic isn't she fellas?

pherein · 01-09-2012, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by dam1953

Pherein

Thanks for the help in trying to enlighten those who aren't.

To summarize what I was tying to illustrate with the stats. Since the loss to the Rams the Saints have been effectively the best offense to ever play the game, period. Pass, run it doesn't matter. The only team that can stop the Saint's offense is the Saints. We play our game, we win.

True, the 49ers have a good D. Good....not great. Great defenses dominate the run and the pass. Great defenses don' t have a pass defense ranked in the middle of the pack of NFL teams.

People forget that our offensive line was in a state of flux early in the year. Since our O-line has gelled Brees has had time to read War and Peace in the pocket and the O is putting up huge numbers.

Unless the 49ers can solve the riddle of where's Drew Candlestick Park can really turn off the lights because the party will be over.

Its no problem, everyone helped, most understood what you were trying to show, and that you were not trying to put the SF defense down. Just a comparison of the teams their defenses faced. So we could understand that SF has a good defense, but they also did not play against quality offenses. You did really good work.

The best offense ever might have to be looked into, because I don't think it is the 2000 Rams, its probably the 2007 Patriots, and they have 4 TD's more than us, but I would be interested on what you think about that.
2007 New England Patriots Statistics & Players - Pro-Football-Reference.com

2011 New Orleans Saints Statistics & Players - Pro-Football-Reference.com

But I agree, one of the best offenses, ever in the NFL is coming to CSP, and they are not the 85 bears defense. Really good job, I looked your work over and your dead on.

WHO_DAT_CAT · 01-09-2012, 10:26 PM

Oh, darn, looks like everybody's tired now. OK. Well, that was fun!!

I say we save our energy for Saturday. I'm excited.

It sure was quiet last year on the bus home from CandleStick.

:saintfan:

FinSaint · 01-09-2012, 10:32 PM

I think that dam1953 presented a very compelling case in the first post of this thread, and although I don't personally give much emphasis on the schedules teams have, I have to say those stats do make me view the SF defense in a slightly different way.

In any case their defense is really good and going on by what I've seen in the SF games I've seen this season - they have really good pursuit to the ball and they really have the art of gang tackling down. Their LBs are excellent and Rogers seems like a completely different CB than he was in WAS, and their defensive front ain't too shabby either.

Still I believe the Saints will win this game, and it'll be interesting seeing the two "turncoats" face each other as probable starters on either side - Goodwin & Franklin.

CantonLegend · 01-09-2012, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Well of course. You're proven everything. You've even prove to all us ignoramuses that there is no God. You sir are just too brilliant for the internet. Any chance you will now leave and go somewhere else and dazzle that place with the self-proclaimed wonder that is you?

Please?

Originally Posted by saintfan

This isn't Cantoon's first foray into wonderment. Personally I think it's drugs or a lack of parenting, because very few well-heeled and sober people are this arrogant in the face of the rest of the world trying to tell him what a misinformed person he is, but either way I've seen this before. It's like one too many reruns of the Brady Bunch.

Originally Posted by saintfan

Thank you for leaving no doubt. Keep on going. I beg you to continue. Please do be my guest.

Does this mean you aren't leaving yet?

Originally Posted by saintfan

Uh oh. Canton is about to have to pic which statistic he's going to praise.

These were ur informative contributions to this thread

I'm not exactly sure what the rules on the forum are anymore but that's about as blatant trolling as it gets

This isn't the only thread youve responded to in this fashion either

You failed to address any of my posts in a mature or informative manner

Whether you agree with anything I say or not...you could still quit being a dbag

saintfan · 01-09-2012, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

These were ur informative contributions to this thread

I'm not exactly sure what the rules on the forum are anymore but that's about as blatant trolling as it gets

This isn't the only thread youve responded to in this fashion either

You failed to address any of my posts in a mature or informative manner

Whether you agree with anything I say or not...you could still quit being a dbag

You want an explanation? LOL Everybody in this thread knows what I was doing. You're the only fool who doesn't get it.

For as long as you're allowed to continue to post here you can expect the same responses from me. Make no mistake. I don't like you. I don't like your approach. I don't like the way to you treat people who post here every day...people who manage to have equitable conversations. You disrupt this board every time your troll by. I enjoy emphasizing your arrogance. Good night Canton. See you the next time you feel like telling the rest of the internet just how stupid it is...but as before you'll end up banned again. For what, how many times? Now THERE'S a stat you can sink your teeth into.

dam1953 · 01-09-2012, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by pherein

Its no problem, everyone helped, most understood what you were trying to show, and that you were not trying to put the SF defense down. Just a comparison of the teams their defenses faced. So we could understand that SF has a good defense, but they also did not play against quality offenses. You did really good work.

The best offense ever might have to be looked into, because I don't think it is the 2000 Rams, its probably the 2007 Patriots, and they have 4 TD's more than us, but I would be interested on what you think about that.
2007 New England Patriots Statistics & Players - Pro-Football-Reference.com

2011 New Orleans Saints Statistics & Players - Pro-Football-Reference.com

But I agree, one of the best offenses, ever in the NFL is coming to CSP, and they are not the 85 bears defense. Really good job, I looked your work over and your dead on.

I looked at the stats for the 2007 Pats. They were obviously a great passing team and put up a ton of points. That's about the only record the Saints didn't break this year. Brady was a passing machine, much like Brees, but he lacked the running game of the 2011 Saints. If the 07 Pats had the 11 Saints running attack they Brady would have another ring.

I believe that the Saints O should be considered the best ever because they have no holes. Super star QB, great running backs (multiple), receivers, tight end, O line. And best of all....no egos. Loomis and Payton have put together a group of great players with great character. It's a pleasure being a Saints fan. I have lived in Cincinnati for the past 20 years and have witnessed the antithesis of the Saints' program.

Obviously, the best ever title won't mean anything without a ring in Super Bowl XLVI. So, step two of the trip to Indi happens on Saturday in CSP.

01-09-2012, 10:12 PM	#85
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by dam1953 Pherein Thanks for the help in trying to enlighten those who aren't. To summarize what I was tying to illustrate with the stats. Since the loss to the Rams the Saints have been effectively the best offense to ever play the game, period. Pass, run it doesn't matter. The only team that can stop the Saint's offense is the Saints. We play our game, we win. True, the 49ers have a good D. Good....not great. Great defenses dominate the run and the pass. Great defenses don' t have a pass defense ranked in the middle of the pack of NFL teams. People forget that our offensive line was in a state of flux early in the year. Since our O-line has gelled Brees has had time to read War and Peace in the pocket and the O is putting up huge numbers. Unless the 49ers can solve the riddle of where's Drew Candlestick Park can really turn off the lights because the party will be over. Its no problem, everyone helped, most understood what you were trying to show, and that you were not trying to put the SF defense down. Just a comparison of the teams their defenses faced. So we could understand that SF has a good defense, but they also did not play against quality offenses. You did really good work. The best offense ever might have to be looked into, because I don't think it is the 2000 Rams, its probably the 2007 Patriots, and they have 4 TD's more than us, but I would be interested on what you think about that. 2007 New England Patriots Statistics & Players - Pro-Football-Reference.com 2011 New Orleans Saints Statistics & Players - Pro-Football-Reference.com But I agree, one of the best offenses, ever in the NFL is coming to CSP, and they are not the 85 bears defense. Really good job, I looked your work over and your dead on. saintfan likes this.
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01-09-2012, 10:26 PM	#86
WHO_DAT_CAT 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: California - Bay Area Posts: 386	Oh, darn, looks like everybody's tired now. OK. Well, that was fun!! I say we save our energy for Saturday. I'm excited. It sure was quiet last year on the bus home from CandleStick. :saintfan: pherein likes this.

01-09-2012, 10:32 PM	#87
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	I think that dam1953 presented a very compelling case in the first post of this thread, and although I don't personally give much emphasis on the schedules teams have, I have to say those stats do make me view the SF defense in a slightly different way. In any case their defense is really good and going on by what I've seen in the SF games I've seen this season - they have really good pursuit to the ball and they really have the art of gang tackling down. Their LBs are excellent and Rogers seems like a completely different CB than he was in WAS, and their defensive front ain't too shabby either. Still I believe the Saints will win this game, and it'll be interesting seeing the two "turncoats" face each other as probable starters on either side - Goodwin & Franklin.
	"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno

01-09-2012, 10:36 PM	#88
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by saintfan Well of course. You're proven everything. You've even prove to all us ignoramuses that there is no God. You sir are just too brilliant for the internet. Any chance you will now leave and go somewhere else and dazzle that place with the self-proclaimed wonder that is you? Please? Originally Posted by saintfan This isn't Cantoon's first foray into wonderment. Personally I think it's drugs or a lack of parenting, because very few well-heeled and sober people are this arrogant in the face of the rest of the world trying to tell him what a misinformed person he is, but either way I've seen this before. It's like one too many reruns of the Brady Bunch. Originally Posted by saintfan Thank you for leaving no doubt. Keep on going. I beg you to continue. Please do be my guest. Does this mean you aren't leaving yet? Originally Posted by saintfan Originally Posted by saintfan Uh oh. Canton is about to have to pic which statistic he's going to praise. These were ur informative contributions to this thread I'm not exactly sure what the rules on the forum are anymore but that's about as blatant trolling as it gets This isn't the only thread youve responded to in this fashion either You failed to address any of my posts in a mature or informative manner Whether you agree with anything I say or not...you could still quit being a dbag

01-09-2012, 10:38 PM	#89
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by CantonLegend These were ur informative contributions to this thread I'm not exactly sure what the rules on the forum are anymore but that's about as blatant trolling as it gets This isn't the only thread youve responded to in this fashion either You failed to address any of my posts in a mature or informative manner Whether you agree with anything I say or not...you could still quit being a dbag You want an explanation? LOL Everybody in this thread knows what I was doing. You're the only fool who doesn't get it. For as long as you're allowed to continue to post here you can expect the same responses from me. Make no mistake. I don't like you. I don't like your approach. I don't like the way to you treat people who post here every day...people who manage to have equitable conversations. You disrupt this board every time your troll by. I enjoy emphasizing your arrogance. Good night Canton. See you the next time you feel like telling the rest of the internet just how stupid it is...but as before you'll end up banned again. For what, how many times? Now THERE'S a stat you can sink your teeth into. dam1953 likes this.
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01-09-2012, 10:44 PM	#90
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Originally Posted by pherein Its no problem, everyone helped, most understood what you were trying to show, and that you were not trying to put the SF defense down. Just a comparison of the teams their defenses faced. So we could understand that SF has a good defense, but they also did not play against quality offenses. You did really good work. The best offense ever might have to be looked into, because I don't think it is the 2000 Rams, its probably the 2007 Patriots, and they have 4 TD's more than us, but I would be interested on what you think about that. 2007 New England Patriots Statistics & Players - Pro-Football-Reference.com 2011 New Orleans Saints Statistics & Players - Pro-Football-Reference.com But I agree, one of the best offenses, ever in the NFL is coming to CSP, and they are not the 85 bears defense. Really good job, I looked your work over and your dead on. I looked at the stats for the 2007 Pats. They were obviously a great passing team and put up a ton of points. That's about the only record the Saints didn't break this year. Brady was a passing machine, much like Brees, but he lacked the running game of the 2011 Saints. If the 07 Pats had the 11 Saints running attack they Brady would have another ring. I believe that the Saints O should be considered the best ever because they have no holes. Super star QB, great running backs (multiple), receivers, tight end, O line. And best of all....no egos. Loomis and Payton have put together a group of great players with great character. It's a pleasure being a Saints fan. I have lived in Cincinnati for the past 20 years and have witnessed the antithesis of the Saints' program. Obviously, the best ever title won't mean anything without a ring in Super Bowl XLVI. So, step two of the trip to Indi happens on Saturday in CSP.

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