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WHO_DAT_CAT 01-14-2012 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 369444)
Why the f**K would you stop doing the same defense that has worked ALL game???

Agreed.

I also think special teams, specifically kick off, and punt returns needs a lot of work.

And, (grimacing) fundamental ball skills.

Boutte 01-14-2012 10:53 PM

I'm not saying the D lost the game for us, they're what kept us in it so the Drew and Co could do their miracle act. I'm saying Gregg Williams let the D down along with everybody else.

halfmoon61 01-14-2012 10:53 PM

Been a Saint fan since their inception, my friends and I used to joke that Jim Mora ruined the team for us by having a season with more wins than losses. Before that we didn't care if we won or loss, it was just another reason to get together and party, not that we needed another reason, lol. Buddy D started the paper bag thing, funny stuff at the time. Almost as funny as wondering who thought it was a good idea to give Buddy D a microphone, could anyone really understand him? Payton and company won a super bowl and I actually think this team might become a dynasty. Today was a sad game to watch because we know they're better than that. Room for improvement, no doubt, but a 14-4 season ain't bad. I don't know a lot about football, never played beyond the schoolyard, but I do know that since Payton became head coach I've enjoyed every season. I predict at least 3 more super bowl wins before Drew retires, someone in the front office has an eye for talent and I imagine the problems being addressed on this forum will be taken care of. Would be nice to see the Saints in the super bowl next year.

CharityMike 01-14-2012 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 369779)
I'm not saying the D lost the game for us, they're what kept us in it so the Drew and Co could do their miracle act. I'm saying Gregg Williams let the D down along with everybody else.

Exactly!!
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Originally Posted by halfmoon61 (Post 369780)
Been a Saint fan since their inception, my friends and I used to joke that Jim Mora ruined the team for us by having a season with more wins than losses. Before that we didn't care if we won or loss, it was just another reason to get together and party, not that we needed another reason, lol. Buddy D started the paper bag thing, funny stuff at the time. Almost as funny as wondering who thought it was a good idea to give Buddy D a microphone, could anyone really understand him? Payton and company won a super bowl and I actually think this team might become a dynasty. Today was a sad game to watch because we know they're better than that. Room for improvement, no doubt, but a 14-4 season ain't bad. I don't know a lot about football, never played beyond the schoolyard, but I do know that since Payton became head coach I've enjoyed every season. I predict at least 3 more super bowl wins before Drew retires, someone in the front office has an eye for talent and I imagine the problems being addressed on this forum will be taken care of. Would be nice to see the Saints in the super bowl next year.

I love your optimism and am with you 100%! Welcome to Black and Gold!!

pherein 01-14-2012 11:11 PM

gregggggs cant stop a #20 level offense from scoring in 1:50 its really that simple.

breesfan27 01-14-2012 11:15 PM

Dave and I both agreed he coached his last game in New Orleans. He's probably going to St. Louis with Jeff Fisher. Goodbye Greg. Thank for the ring.

mike27 01-14-2012 11:33 PM

Look, they came up a little short. Maybe if they'd won the tie-break, and got the week off, they'd be the ones that won by four.

They've worked hard, they've had several winning seasons. I really don't think we should pick them apart because they came up a few games short. I have to say, it's been so much more fun since they've been winning most of their games.

No team will win the SuperBowl every time. It's the only team I watch, and I hate they didn't make it. But I'm not going to act like a spoiled child about it, it's just a game. Maybe next year, maybe not. But if they win more than they lose, if they get into the playoffs, I'm happy about it.

I lived through the ain'ts.

halloween 65 01-15-2012 12:06 AM

I don't want a D that keeps us on a roller coaster. I want to have a stable D. Something you can count on. The D plays good at sub-par offenses but good O's eat them alive. Example 9'ers sub-par played great until the last 5 minutes. Lions, if not for our O we would have lost. Our D has been suspect all year and have been on borrowed time and their time ran out today, so we go back to the drawing board and start all over this next season. It has been a he!! of a ride this year though, hasn't it ? Just hated to see it end!!!!!

CharityMike 01-15-2012 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 369818)
I don't want a D that keeps us on a roller coaster. I want to have a stable D. Something you can count on. The D plays good at sub-par offenses but good O's eat them alive. Example 9'ers sub-par played great until the last 5 minutes. Lions, if not for our O we would have lost. Our D has been suspect all year and have been on borrowed time and their time ran out today, so we go back to the drawing board and start all over this next season. It has been a he!! of a ride this year though, hasn't it ? Just hated to see it end!!!!!

Definitely has!! We have some changes to make for sure. I just hope that whoever has the eye for talent in the front office(though I must say seems more offensive than defensive) can get us some game changers.

SaintsBella 01-15-2012 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mike27 (Post 369747)
Subtract 17 points from the 36, and you get 19. 32, or more, to 19, Saints' win. How can you not do subtraction?

Seriously folks, in the playoffs for 3 years, won a superbowl in 2009, and even with all the errors on the offense, handing points to the other side, they still were in the game at the end.

You know what? I'm pretty happy with Williams, and Coach Payton, and there are 32 teams, and I'd put them up against anyone. They gave us 14 winning games to watch, and after watching the Saints' for 40 plus years, and seeing them lose, and lose, and lose, I just can't complain a whole lot.

I'd like for them to have won of course. But they didn't. It's a game, somebody lost, somebody won. I'd have actually felt a little bad for SF if they had lost, they were trying so hard, though I didn't like the fact they were playing dirty, referees weren't calling a lot of penalties, and I really thought taunting was illegal, which it seemed SF was doing on every kickoff.

I hope GB destroys them, and I just wish the Saints' had injured more of them, like they were so obviously trying to do to the Saints', with success I might add. Oh, did you see the guy twist Graham's right arm back while he was rolling the other way?

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought their kickoff dance was ridiculous. I was waiting for them to break out and do the YMCA dance. Surely, if our guys had done that, there'd be a sea of yellow flags.


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