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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by G504 In 09, we lived off take-aways. That is the biggest difference. Our secondary needs to report to camp with the WRs until they learn how to freakin' catch! We dropped two picks today. One was right ...

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Old 01-14-2012, 09:31 PM   #11
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In 09, we lived off take-aways. That is the biggest difference. Our secondary needs to report to camp with the WRs until they learn how to freakin' catch! We dropped two picks today. One was right in our laps! And we let them recover two of their own fumbles. We not flying to the ball.
I firmly believe it's because they are not even looking for the ball. Look at that dropped pick by Robinson today..he had no clue the ball was there till it was popping out of his arms. The scheme now is crap. The players are to worried about where they should be that fundamentals have gone out the window.
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Old 01-14-2012, 09:37 PM   #12
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I firmly believe it's because they are not even looking for the ball. Look at that dropped pick by Robinson today..he had no clue the ball was there till it was popping out of his arms. The scheme now is crap. The players are to worried about where they should be that fundamentals have gone out the window.
Yeah, and maybe getting rid of GW will be the ignition the D needs. Hopefully they'll feel the need to prove themselves to a new coordinator. Just hope the new guy comes in and rips up the depth chart first day of camp and announces "ALL starting positions are an open competition."
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Just hope the new guy comes in and rips up the depth chart first day of camp and announces "ALL starting positions are an open competition."
AMEN!!! There would be alot of worried faces on the front seven.
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Old 01-14-2012, 09:39 PM   #14
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Deuce and Sharper weren't brought back because of injury.

Horn pissed SP off?; plus he was injuried before '06 playoffs.
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Old 01-14-2012, 09:47 PM   #15
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Deuce and Sharper weren't brought back because of injury.

Horn pissed SP off?; plus he was injuried before '06 playoffs.
Yeah, but we also signed Brees, Vilma, and Sharper himself after their respective teams lost faith after big injuries. So you would think we'd know big time players can have a 2nd life after a season ending injury.
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Old 01-14-2012, 10:07 PM   #16
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In '09 we had a secondary coach; he is now the Broncos defensive coordinator
I agree.
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Old 01-14-2012, 10:40 PM   #17
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I'm sure you guys know more about football than I do. But, I will risk putting my two cents in.

With all the heat, GW relies heavily on the secondary. If the secondary has a bad day...we are exposed. We aren't getting enough pressure up front. Today, he played man, when zone probably would have been a better choice. That said, obviously, our D kept us in this game. After, a zillion turnovers in the first quarter, if it hadn't been for our D, the ship would have been sunk mid-3rd quarter.

The O-line caved in the 4th quarter. I also didn't like the play calling in the 2nd overall. But, because the O-line was caving in the 4th, I'm not sure what would have worked better.

Special teams turned the ball over and wasn't able to gain substantial yardage most of the season. (Although, the P. Robinson blocked field goal against Atlanta was very special.)

If we are going to critique, there's lots of stuff to look at on all sides of the ball to me.
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Old 01-14-2012, 10:48 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by WHO_DAT_CAT View Post
I'm sure you guys know more about football than I do. But, I will risk putting my two cents in.

With all the heat, GW relies heavily on the secondary. If the secondary has a bad day...we are exposed. We aren't getting enough pressure up front. Today, he played man, when zone probably would have been a better choice. That said, obviously, our D kept us in this game. After, a zillion turnovers in the first quarter, if it hadn't been for our D, the ship would have been sunk mid-3rd quarter.

The O-line caved in the 4th quarter. I also didn't like the play calling in the 2nd overall. But, because the O-line was caving in the 4th, I'm not sure what would have worked better.

Special teams turned the ball over and wasn't able to gain substantial yardage most of the season. (Although, the P. Robinson blocked field goal against Atlanta was very special.)

If we are going to critique, there's lots of stuff to look at on all sides of the ball to me.
Think about it another way. After Sproles scored his TD we were ahead with 4 min left in the game. You can basically erase everything that happened before that in the game. We were up a score and just needed our defense to just keep doing what they had been doing all game long. What the heck changed on the 49ers last two drives? How do we let smith go 165 yards and two TDs in less than a few minutes???? We had him contained the whole game and then just let him gut is? Alex freaking smith - I mean really???
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Think about it another way. After Sproles scored his TD we were ahead with 4 min left in the game. You can basically erase everything that happened before that in the game. We were up a score and just needed our defense to just keep doing what they had been doing all game long. What the heck changed on the 49ers last two drives? How do we let smith go 165 yards and two TDs in less than a few minutes???? We had him contained the whole game and then just let him gut is? Alex freaking smith - I mean really???
This is what hurts the most.
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Old 01-14-2012, 11:06 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by westbankdaze View Post
Think about it another way. After Sproles scored his TD we were ahead with 4 min left in the game. You can basically erase everything that happened before that in the game. We were up a score and just needed our defense to just keep doing what they had been doing all game long. What the heck changed on the 49ers last two drives? How do we let smith go 165 yards and two TDs in less than a few minutes???? We had him contained the whole game and then just let him gut is? Alex freaking smith - I mean really???
Not gonna argue, WestBank. I was shocked at the way our defense played in the last 4 minutes and especially in the last 1:47. I was wondering why we didn't do better clock management on offense in the last drive - but I'm sure no one knew Graham would break that one.

I'm just trying to look at the game and our performance from an entire game / season point-of-view. We can come back from a large point deficit and we did today. But, now, I just think we need to look at specific areas that did not work today -- for the future.

This, to me was an amazing season. We won the division. We beat the f*ckin Falcons TWICE. And, we're 13-3. Do I want another SuperBowl? You bet your a$$ I do! But, I also just want to acknowledge what we accomplished this year and look at what we can fix next year. This was disappointing to me, but not crushing. It's a game and I enjoyed the whole season.
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