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LBCutta 01-15-2012 12:19 PM

Gregg Williams re-joins Fisher in St. Louis
 
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This isn’t a huge surprise, but ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports that New Orleans offensive coordinator Gregg Williams is expected to leave the Saints and join Jeff Fisher in St. Louis.

Williams worked for Fisher in Tennessee and the two are close friends. Williams’ contract with New Orleans is expiring and there had been speculation he would join Fisher. Williams joined the Saints in 2009 and his trademark opportunistic defense came up with lots of turnovers as New Orleans won the Super Bowl that season.

But Williams’ defense wasn’t able to produce turnovers at anywhere near the same rate in 2010 or 2011. The Saints’ defense collapsed late in the fourth quarter of Saturday’s playoff loss to San Francisco. If Williams hadn’t already made a decision on his future, the two late touchdowns scored by the 49ers might have sealed his fate. I never got the sense Williams and head coach Sean Payton were especially close and Payton might have been looking to make a change after what happened Saturday.

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Danno 01-15-2012 12:21 PM

Expected?

By whom?

nicebush25 01-15-2012 12:25 PM

end of his of contract. his friend jeff fisher hired by rams this week. defense implosion in the playoffs last 2 years.

expected by me

CharityMike 01-15-2012 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 370057)
Expected?

By whom?

Exactly..how is this breaking news? Nothing is done for sure yet.

QBREES9 01-15-2012 12:26 PM

This is not Breaking News.

ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports that New Orleans offensive coordinator Gregg Williams is expected to leave the Saints and join Jeff Fisher in St. Louis.

Will see.

cmike 01-15-2012 12:26 PM

and me....

Danno 01-15-2012 12:31 PM

Pure Speculation.

Poor reporting.

LBCutta 01-15-2012 12:33 PM

I changed the title so no one would think it was actually final yet..... my bad

QBREES9 01-15-2012 12:35 PM

No problem

UK_WhoDat 01-15-2012 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 370057)
Expected?

By whom?

Expected by that doomsayer ESPN’s Adam Schefter of course :rolleyes:

LBCutta 01-15-2012 12:53 PM

usually Adam Schefter is on the money though

Boutte 01-15-2012 12:57 PM

Why does Fisher even want him?

saintfan 01-15-2012 12:57 PM

This is the same report from what, 2 weeks ago. It's like a speculation bump...not that there's anything wrong with that...

LBCutta 01-15-2012 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 370086)
Why does Fisher even want him?

apparently they are friends and G.Williams is a "Missouri Guy"......but his DC skills have left alot to be desired in New Orleans.....

CheramieIII 01-15-2012 01:01 PM

He runs a pretty good offense hey wait who's on D? Good bye. He had 2 chances to hold them in the last 4 minutes and couldn't deliver. Let's get someone in who's going to pay to the entire defense not just a lackluster pass rush.

OldMaid 01-15-2012 01:19 PM

Thanks KingC. Rumors , rumors...There is not his official word yet, but this seems all but a done deal now. This case seems very true. Saints out. No reason not to have an official comment now. No one comments on coaching changes during the end of the season or Playoffs, if a team is that far.
Now Saints, out, I bet official comment is coming as soon as this week.

4everSaint 01-15-2012 02:27 PM

Good.

Turbo Saint 01-15-2012 02:31 PM

totally fine with me...what i witnessed yesterday sealed it for me.

this season, sealed it for me...we need to change gears on the D side...thanks for the SB, gregg, but you're not getting it done, and haven't been since.

Halo 01-15-2012 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 370069)
Pure Speculation.

Poor reporting.

Yes but for me, it's a Sunday morning consolation prize.
To think he'll go give me something to look forward to.


GO GET SPAGS NOW!!!!!

Halo 01-15-2012 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbo Saint (Post 370133)
totally fine with me...what i witnessed yesterday sealed it for me.

this season, sealed it for me...we need to change gears on the D side...thanks for the SB, gregg, but you're not getting it done, and haven't been since.

I'm tired of making and hearing excuses for our defense. I said it early on in the season, that our defense was a huge weak link, and many criticized me for saying it early on.

2009 was the best iteration of the defense made up of young and aging talent. When Sharper wasn't able to return, letting Fujita go, and Vilma showing age, this defense has been a sub-par version of its 2009 self.

The Saints must make changes on D to have a chance at championships.
End of story.

|Mitch| 01-15-2012 02:58 PM

I think losing our secondary coach to Denver after '09 hurt more than Sharper not coming back.

And Vilma is undersized anyway, relies on speed to make plays. Too bad the speed really isn't there anymore...

SapperSaint 01-15-2012 03:02 PM

Can someone tell me which line to get in to shake his hand "Goodbye"?

DVR'ed the game (By the way, is the BEST way to watch a game) just sickening to watch the defense. I said repeatedly back before SP got here; COACHING is VERY IMPORTANT!

Oh and by the way..... GET RID OF SHANLE! This guy blows donkey! I don't understand why he keeps getting extentions. Is he paying the Saints money, not to cut him?

Thanks for the first couple year GW.... but you sir, got lazy and predictable.

LBCutta 01-15-2012 03:18 PM

This definitely makes me feel just a little better about the loss

NOLA54 01-15-2012 05:26 PM

It is time for GW to go. And here is why. The last drive of yesterdays game when we had the 9ers pinned at their own 15 & we did not put pressure on smith and they moved right down the field & scored the winning TD. That is why. While the D played well the rest of the game it was that last drive that did Williams in. Especially if the Giants beat the Packers today (giants are up to 10 at the half). With a Saints win & a Packers lost the NFC championship game would have been in the DOME! It is unforgiveable, for the Saints, to have had the lead with 1:47 mins left & loose it with a walkoff TD by the 9ers. I say lets go for Jack DelRio for D coordinator.

mikesaintfan 01-15-2012 05:26 PM

as many of us have said, GW is a one trick pony...his schemes work at first because the opposition doesn't know who will be comming on the blitz or from where it will come...after he gets into his game, he is easy to predict...he brings the heat and everyone knows it...problem is that its never realy "exotic"...its the same guys...harper and jenkins all the time...identify the DB who has crept up to the box and there is your blitzer...his creativity really shows through when he has a player up front to start then they have to sprint back to the coverage responsibility(which leaves them sadly out of position and winded from sprinting)...he can have one maybe two good seasons with a team then he is figured out and exploited

gandhi1007 01-15-2012 05:28 PM

Bye.......

CharityMike 01-15-2012 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SapperSaint (Post 370150)
Can someone tell me which line to get in to shake his hand "Goodbye"?

DVR'ed the game (By the way, is the BEST way to watch a game) just sickening to watch the defense. I said repeatedly back before SP got here; COACHING is VERY IMPORTANT!

Oh and by the way..... GET RID OF SHANLE! This guy blows donkey! I don't understand why he keeps getting extentions. Is he paying the Saints money, not to cut him?

Thanks for the first couple year GW.... but you sir, got lazy and predictable.

Welcome to the " I hate Shanle club" Glad to have you. I am just glad the more he plays the more people come join the club. Maybe now he won't be here next year.

TheDeuce 01-15-2012 06:11 PM

Good, get out ya bum.

gandhi1007 01-15-2012 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SapperSaint (Post 370150)
Oh and by the way..... GET RID OF SHANLE! This guy blows donkey! I don't understand why he keeps getting extentions. Is he paying the Saints money, not to cut him?

'Bout time people started catching on. Dude is Jason David at LB!

SaintsBella 01-15-2012 06:24 PM

I say Adios. Just my personal opinion. I'll even pay to fly him to St. Louis. I think its time to revamp our defense.

SmashMouth 01-15-2012 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 370087)
This is the same report from what, 2 weeks ago. It's like a speculation bump...not that there's anything wrong with that...

Is that a premature speculation bump!

A change is needed at dc anyway. Those last two Whiners drives saw to Dat!

TheEnigma 01-15-2012 06:59 PM

Thank God! They can have him.

mike27 01-15-2012 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nicebush25 (Post 370060)
end of his of contract. his friend jeff fisher hired by rams this week. defense implosion in the playoffs last 2 years.

expected by me

Collapse, that's hilarious. The defense picking up after all the turnovers was the only force in that game for N.O. that kept them in the game, and gave them any chance at all.

I thought N.O. was embarrassing until I watched the Packers. Now the Giants' get to head to SF.

iceshack149 01-15-2012 10:22 PM

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Considering all the first round players on the D-line, maybe we should aim our pitchforks and torches towards Bill Johnson.

New Orleans Saints: Bill Johnson

Euphoria 01-15-2012 10:26 PM

Yes my wish is close to coming true!!!

breesfan27 01-15-2012 11:38 PM

After yesterday's game, I can't say I'm sad to see him go. Thanks for everything Gregg. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

joker-saint 01-15-2012 11:56 PM

Maybe they will hire Bill Cower. Now that would be an excellent fit!!!! I feel like Williams had a god run, but proved he hasn't been able to find the right mix of plays to keep up with todays offenses. Its kind of strange that we only lost two key players in Sharper and Fujita and all of the sudden we had a lethargic defense dont you think?

joker-saint 01-16-2012 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mike27 (Post 370283)
Collapse, that's hilarious. The defense picking up after all the turnovers was the only force in that game for N.O. that kept them in the game, and gave them any chance at all.

I thought N.O. was embarrassing until I watched the Packers. Now the Giants' get to head to SF.

I have to agree with this one as well. Our defensive efforts towars the end of the game are what kept us in it, but they REALLY dropped the ball when they let Davis go into single coverage so deep down the field. Look at it this way though, if Jenkins had stripped the ball it would have been game over and the Saints would have won. It was an excellent effort on Jenkins side, but Davis was just a little bit stronger than him.

joker-saint 01-16-2012 12:14 AM

My only question to the rest of the fan base is: Can you really blame poor tackling, blown coverage, and piss poor penetration at the line of scrimmage on the coach? Our guys can only be coached so much, its up to the players to hit there assignments each time they are on the field. Finger pointing and playing the blame game isnt going to fix anything. If you are on that field and you are getting paid more money than 97% of the rest of America you had better play like you are the best at what you do!!!!! A coach is only as good as the players he puts on the field. Just look at the 21 irrefutable laws of leadership written by John Maxwell. Do you think any of the leaders we had in the history of America played the blame game? I honestly believe that GW's schemes would have worked better if our players had more heart. Too many times it looked like our defenders would just give up on the plays.

joker-saint 01-16-2012 12:17 AM

LOL....Maybe we should bring back Haslette?


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