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halloween 65 01-15-2012 06:11 PM

Vilma needs to go period. Franklin and Rodgers had 1 year contracts= DT in the draft, I want 2, We have DE's so let Smith go, he is overrated. I love Shanle he is solid, but we need youth at the lb. spot, heavy, fast, and hard hitters. Shanle would be a great backup. I like our db.'s probably will be good there although I would keep an eye on Porter, now for the safeties, it's going to depend on the scheme, I love Harper great ss. I can't see him going anywhere, now for Jenkins our 1st round fs. who has played lost all year, lost in G.W. scheme, should get a lot of compitition in training camp and if he can't grasp this scheme write him off, Quaddus will do a better job. Now about the DT's if we draft 2 to get pressure up front it will make our DE's better along with the new lb.'s, win, win. And get rid of Ellis asap, trade, cut, or whatever, waste of time.....

CharityMike 01-15-2012 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 370244)
Vilma needs to go period. Franklin and Rodgers had 1 year contracts= DT in the draft, I want 2, We have DE's so let Smith go, he is overrated. I love Shanle he is solid, but we need youth at the lb. spot, heavy, fast, and hard hitters. Shanle would be a great backup. I like our db.'s probably will be good there although I would keep an eye on Porter, now for the safeties, it's going to depend on the scheme, I love Harper great ss. I can't see him going anywhere, now for Jenkins our 1st round fs. who has played lost all year, lost in G.W. scheme, should get a lot of compitition in training camp and if he can't grasp this scheme write him off, Quaddus will do a better job. Now about the DT's if we draft 2 to get pressure up front it will make our DE's better along with the new lb.'s, win, win. And get rid of Ellis asap, trade, cut, or whatever, waste of time.....

Shanle is solid..that's the funniest thing I have read in days..lmfao

To the folks that think Colston is not replaceable..remember when he was out a bunch of weeks, I think it was last year, Moore stepped up and did great. Moore is a playmaker.

saintfan 01-15-2012 10:26 PM

If I may be so bold, it is my opinion that of the players mentioned the most, the guy we can least afford to lose, aside from Drew, is Thomas.

PT is horribly underrated. Horribly.

GeauxForMore 01-15-2012 11:12 PM

You cant get rid if Colston. He shows up every week and might have the best hands out of all our WR. Who would you replace him with? DH and RM are no where near the same tyoe of WR Colston is. The money is right there on D. Get rid of Will Smith, Vilma, Tracy Porter. Hell im not in love with Greer. I think Patrick Robinson can be a good replacement and correct me if im wrong but didnt we draft a CB from Louisville. Sounds like we are preparing to get rid of some secondary guys.

GeauxForMore 01-15-2012 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 370345)
Shanle is solid..that's the funniest thing I have read in days..lmfao

To the folks that think Colston is not replaceable..remember when he was out a bunch of weeks, I think it was last year, Moore stepped up and did great. Moore is a playmaker.

Moore was hurt alot this year too. Colston did great when Moore was out as well.

SaintPauly 01-15-2012 11:41 PM

I say Colston stays... He is our go to receiver, more than anyone else. Graham isn't going anywhere! And if we need to replace defensive players, then I say get rid of the defensive players that aren't cutting it. This offense needs to stay intact, as much as possible.... You don't fix a problem, by breaking it further....

Donuts32 01-16-2012 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 370345)
Shanle is solid..that's the funniest thing I have read in days..lmfao

To the folks that think Colston is not replaceable..remember when he was out a bunch of weeks, I think it was last year, Moore stepped up and did great. Moore is a playmaker.

Moore is good but he does disappear in games sometimes. Colston is irreplaceable in this offense and nobody besides Graham will go over the middle of the field and take the big hits or even go up and get the ball.

QBREES9 01-16-2012 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 4everSaint (Post 370171)
Drew Brees = Atlas. It's time to take the globe off of his shoulder.

Very good point. It's like watching the Air Coryell Chargers back in the 80's. Go out their and score score score. Don't worry about stopping anybody Drew can do it.

Turbo Saint 01-16-2012 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 370348)
If I may be so bold, it is my opinion that of the players mentioned the most, the guy we can least afford to lose, aside from Drew, is Thomas.

PT is horribly underrated. Horribly.

my god...this just needs to be quoted and reiterated since no one commented...

TOTALLY TRUE. he would be an EASY #1 guy on any team tht didn't have 3000 RBs.

LBCutta 01-16-2012 02:29 AM

Are you guys serious? How many teams would just let they're #1 WR walk? I say Colston stays. As long as we have Colston, Graham and Moore we can afford to let Devery and Meach walk. And sign or draft some cheap WR to replace them and Drew can work with them. I say Brees, Nicks and Colston all stay. Too many big contracts on D for all of them to stay and not producing anything.


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