Personnel Question

SapperSaint · 01-17-2012, 08:43 AM

Player evaluation is my guess.

I would think it is very hard to judge who will make a good Pro. I for one thought Damion Fletcher, a RB out of Southern Miss was a lock to be in the NFL. He was a Top 20 RB in NCAA Football. But he never made it. Go figure.

I think it is truly a "Hit or Miss" type of thing. What looks great in college.... doesn't always pan out in the NFL.

Mardigras9 · 01-17-2012, 09:00 AM

May be time to evaluate the Vilma situation with Dunbar being the younger player for that position. Certainly defensive line and LBs need to be our primary building concern this off season.

MatthewT · 01-17-2012, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by JimmyB1775

I get all that, but if we take a free agent (and yes, I read we can't afford Mario), he'll be what we expect because he's proven. Darren Sharper gave us that, I think. In 09. But now, Vilma looks slow, Smith looks fat and the DB's look inexperienced. Porter (I hope he stays) and Greer are good but Jenkins doesn't play FS well enough in GW's previous scheme to make plays consistently. You'd think Jenkins coming from a corner position and moving to FS, he'd have better cover skills and range. But I think GW leaves him so far out in center field, he doesn't have the opportunity to learn the FS position or even play well.

You pretty much nailed it on the head with Darren Sharper. Sharper WAS that guy in 09 who made the rest of the defense better, and has not since been replaced. Sharper was the main reason Gregg Williams' defense was such a success in the 09 season. A Williams based defense relies on aggressiveness and creating turnovers, that was all Sharper. Jenkins is a very good FS but does not possess the same skill that Sharper had.

hagan714 · 01-17-2012, 09:11 AM

sign the players we can then see what is left and do some roster juggling.

at best i see a high midlevel fa fitting in the cap.

Williams may not get the money most think due to his injury history

01-17-2012, 09:01 AM	#13
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,705	Originally Posted by JimmyB1775 I get all that, but if we take a free agent (and yes, I read we can't afford Mario), he'll be what we expect because he's proven. Darren Sharper gave us that, I think. In 09. But now, Vilma looks slow, Smith looks fat and the DB's look inexperienced. Porter (I hope he stays) and Greer are good but Jenkins doesn't play FS well enough in GW's previous scheme to make plays consistently. You'd think Jenkins coming from a corner position and moving to FS, he'd have better cover skills and range. But I think GW leaves him so far out in center field, he doesn't have the opportunity to learn the FS position or even play well. You pretty much nailed it on the head with Darren Sharper. Sharper WAS that guy in 09 who made the rest of the defense better, and has not since been replaced. Sharper was the main reason Gregg Williams' defense was such a success in the 09 season. A Williams based defense relies on aggressiveness and creating turnovers, that was all Sharper. Jenkins is a very good FS but does not possess the same skill that Sharper had.

LinkBacks (?) LinkBack to this Thread: https://blackandgold.com/saints/40450-personnel-question.html
Posted By	For	Type	Date	Hits
Personnel Question	This thread	Refback	01-16-2012 01:25 PM	2

01-17-2012, 08:43 AM	#11
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Player evaluation is my guess. I would think it is very hard to judge who will make a good Pro. I for one thought Damion Fletcher, a RB out of Southern Miss was a lock to be in the NFL. He was a Top 20 RB in NCAA Football. But he never made it. Go figure. I think it is truly a "Hit or Miss" type of thing. What looks great in college.... doesn't always pan out in the NFL.

Latest Blogs
2023 New Orleans Saints: Training Camp Last Blog: 08-01-2023 By: MarchingOn Puck the Fro Browl! Last Blog: 02-05-2023 By: neugey CFP: "Just Keep Doing What You're Doing" Last Blog: 12-08-2022 By: neugey

01-17-2012, 09:00 AM	#12
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	May be time to evaluate the Vilma situation with Dunbar being the younger player for that position. Certainly defensive line and LBs need to be our primary building concern this off season.

01-17-2012, 09:11 AM	#14
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	sign the players we can then see what is left and do some roster juggling. at best i see a high midlevel fa fitting in the cap. Williams may not get the money most think due to his injury history