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1-CB - Hall, Gamble, or Robinson
2A-OLB-Donterrious Thomas 2B-ILB-Rod Davis 3-CB-Joey Thomas At this point I spontaneously wet myself... ;) WhoDat probably does too, if he hasn't fainted yet! ;) 5-FB 6-DB (FS,SS, or CB) 7-RB The 1st place I visit is Black&Gold.net!!!!! [Edited on 19/3/2004 by Danno] |
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basically its going to come down to a theory... \"Do you build a D from the Oustide-in or the In side-out.
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I looked at last years draft and noticed that by the end of the 3rd round only 8 CB\'s were taken. So its possible to get a top 10 CB in the 3rd round. It\'ll be a guy like Joey Thomas that\'ll need a year to develop into a quality NFL corner.
Ditto for LB\'s. Saints have the 48th pick. Last year only 5 LB (ILB + OLB) were taken by that time. And I think the majority of those taken were OLB\'s. Each year is different, but if trending positions is of any value at all, we could end the draft like this... 1- Top 3 CB (mid-season starter) 2A- Top 5 LB (mid-season starter) 2B - Top 10 LB (late season starter, or heavy playing time) 3- Top 10 CB (late season starter, or heavy playing time) With all the good looking WR\'s and QB\'s this year, along with so many teams addressing their CB needs by overpaying for free agents, the trending may even be more favorable for us. I don\'t know why they won\'t let me work the stinkin draft. I\'d work cheap too! [Edited on 19/3/2004 by Danno] |
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I am getting the feeling that Hall is not going to drop to our spot. Looks like after his 40 time, his stock is shooting up. This could be good for the Vilma fans because this might ignite a run on corners, allowing us to grab him.
Almost every mock draft has us taking will poole. I refuse to research any USC players do to lsu religious reasons, is he worth a 18th pick? LSUsurfer |
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THE HUDDLE REPORT
Will Poole CB USC Strengths Will is the new size CB that the NFL now needs to go up against the pro WR’s. He is fast and strong. He is a fighter and uses his body to slow up the WR’s. New cover techniques are needed and Will is learning them fast. Will is a good tackler and has good hands to intercept the ball. Will had seven interceptions in his senior year. Needs to Improve Will is a little stiff in the hips. His long legs make it hard to change direction. Will has to learn that in the pros, you can only bump for five yards, not all over the field like the college game allows. Bottom Line Every time I see Will play, he gets better and better. With his size and the improvement that I have seen on film, you can bet the scouts will look hard at Will. In fact, he could sneak into the first round. He has pretty good speed, but he is not as quick as most corners in the NFL. Without the quickness, the scouts may not feel that Will is an every down CB. That’s the big question -- his quickness. His quickness, or lack of quickness, will dictate if he is a 1st or 2nd rounder. I think the standards for a CB are changing very quickly in the NFL. Every team needs at least one corner that can handle a big receiver in the red zone. This type of corner is not going to be as quick as the smaller ones. This type of corner needs to be physical and have good straight-line speed. He does not have to change direction quickly because those big, long-legged receivers cannot make their cuts as fast. This is what makes a physical strong, tall, good speed corner so valuable in the NFL today. Five or six years ago, Will is a fourth rounder that you would move to safety as a project. Today, he is exactly what teams are looking for…a big, tall, strong corner to cover a 6’5�-220 lbs-4.50 speed wide receiver that is out-muscling our ‘5\'9\"-185 lbs-4.40 speed with great quickness and change of direction’ pro bowl corner. (That\'s a mouthful.) I am going to guess that Will goes in the 2nd round, but he’s another player that could sneak into the latter part of the first round. Drew Boylhart http://thehuddlereport.com/2004DRAFT.../WillPoole.htm |
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Jonathan Vilma LB Miami Strengths Jonathan is very quick and strong for his size. He has good change of direction and has played both inside and outside LB for the Miami program. He has good leadership skills and has admirable tackling technique. I like Jonathan in the passing game. He has good speed for his position and is very active when the ball is snapped. Needs to Improve Jonathan’s biggest need is more size. It is not going to happen! If he gets bigger, it will affect his skills, so what you see is what you get. Bottom Line Jonathan is a systems linebacker. He has to have a big herd of elephants in front of him to be effective or he will be a nickel/ dime linebacker only. Because of this, it drops his status in the draft out of the 1st round. This does not mean that Jonathan will not be one of the better linebackers in the league some day. It just means for the purpose of the draft that until he proves otherwise, the scouts have no choice but to project him as a system linebacker or nickel/dime LB. You Miami fans, don’t get riled up. Rearrange yourselves and listen. Jonathan will have to prove in the NFL that he is more than a system LB. I believe he will. If I am a scout (and want to keep my job), I can’t rate him any higher than that. If he bombs and I rate him as a 1st rounder with his size, I’m looking for a job in a sanitary landfill. If I rate him in the 2nd round and he becomes an all pro LB, I’m a genius. Hmmm… let me see! Genius or job in a landfill--- which one would you pick? |
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DeAngelo Hall CB Virginia Tech Strengths De Angelo is fast and quick. He changes direction with ease. Very good hip-flip. He is smart and is a playmaker. He has the abilities to be a shutdown corner in the NFL. Nice long arms to defend against bigger players. He loves a challenge. He is a nightmare on special teams. Excellent in the punt return game. He has the ability to affect the game plan of his opponents. Needs to Improve No sense in going through some sort of nonsense about attitude, techniques, yada, yada, yada. Yes, he needs to improve, and he will. He could be a better tackler (pick, pick, pick). Hopefully, he will mature in his actions on the field but if he doesn\'t, it\'s not something that is very likely to affect his draft status. Bottom Line There are just a few of these type of players that are shutdown players at their position and can throw fear into the heart of their opponents in the special teams game, too. This kid will impact in his first year with interceptions and run backs on special teams. He likes the big time and wears it well. He uses intimidation to mask his limitations as a cover corner. All the big ones do this. He is the closest thing coming out of the college game to D. Sanders that I have seen. Once drafted, he will have to prove that he is worthy of that comparison. Kansas City special teams player Dante Hall literally won five games for his team this year and affected the game plan of his opponents in all 16 games. With that type of success, other teams will be looking for their own choo-choo, like Dante. The fact that DeAngelo has the potential to be a shutdown corner would make me think that DeAngelo might be a pretty high draft choice. I hear collecting choo-choo’s can be worth a lot of money. Drew Boylhart |
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Chris Gamble CB Ohio St Strengths Chris is a difference maker. He is tall and strong for his position. He has good speed for his size. He is the next generation of CB in the NFL. He has good hands for interceptions -- important if a CB wants to make the big bucks. He has the potential to be a shutdown CB in the NFL. He does not get down on himself when he makes a mistake. Chris rises to the challenge. Needs to Improve; Chris is not yet a finished product. Unusual for Ohio St., but Chris did not devote his attention full time to the position until just this year. He still needs to learn about technique and right now is better in zone than man to man. He guesses a little too much right now. This will all get better with experience. Bottom Line; Chris is far from a finished CB right now. There are other CBs in this draft that are almost as tall and much more polished at this stage then Chris. Those other CBs have some other problems that may make them on my board unappealing. Chris is a good player now with the potential to be an impact player, with no baggage. Chris is tall enough not to have trouble with the small quick receivers and big and strong enough to shut down the big possession receivers. I personally rate Chris on my board ahead of Derrick Strait because I think he is a bit more athletic then Derrick and has more upside. Chris should go someplace in the middle of the first round and Derrick, late part of the first round |
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Dontarrious Thomas LB Auburn Strengths Dontarrious might be the strongest LB in this draft. He is a pure MLB. He has good abilities in the passing game and is excellent at blitzing the QB. He shows good leadership qualities. He is a force in the running game taking on and shedding blockers with ease. Needs to Improve Dontarrious needs to show more leadership on the field. In particular, he needs to be more vocal and demanding of his teammates. Bottom Line If Dontarrious was more vocal as a leader, there is no doubt in my mind that people would be comparing him to Ray Lewis of the Baltimore Ravens. As I have stated, Dontarrious is a pure middle linebacker. I rate Rod Davis and Dontarrious as 1 and 1A on my board. Flip them anyway you would like. I put Rod ahead of Dontarrious only because Rod can play all three linebacker positions. Dontarrious is motivated by pride. His actions on the field tell me that he will always expect to get paid the going rate without the hassle of negotiating for it. He is a no-nonsense type of guy. Treat him fairly and he will go through a wall for you. If you don\'t respect him and his effort, he just might put YOU through the wall instead. Dontarrious might make the top 15 in this draft, but it really doesn\'t matter to him, so I don’t expect him to push very hard for it. He will start right away and be a main cog in someone\'s defense for a long time. He is a search and destroy type of linebacker. If you need a LB, don\'t pass him up and think you will get him in the 2nd round. New England will not let it happen. Remember they have two picks in the first round. Dontarrious the Destroyer. |
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Rod Davis LB Southern Mississippi Strengths Rod is the right size for an NFL linebacker. He has very good speed. He is an attacking linebacker, does not wait for the play to come to him. Rod has excellent instincts and great change of direction. He is effective in the passing game and equally as effective in the running game. Rod has great pass rushing abilities. Rod can play all of the linebacker positions. He has leadership qualities and makes the players around him better. He is a team player in every sense. He has very good tackling technique. Rod is an impact player. Needs to Improve Rod needs to improve his draft rating. He needs to get a good agent and he needs to help improve the marketing department of his school. Rod also needs to inform the NFL draft sites that he is alive and playing linebacker for a college football team. Bottom Line Ladies go to any film of any linebacker in college. I will give you film of any game you want of Rod Davis. I dare you to tell me after looking at the film that Rod is not the best linebacker in this draft. Forget your Miami boys; forget the boys from Auburn, this kid outplays them all. You don\'t believe me? You think I\'m missing a screw? Well, I do not believe what potential agents tell me about a player. I do not believe the marketing people of a college about a player. I do not look at other draft sites and repeat whatever they say just to be one of the guys. I look at film. I look at a lot of film. Rod Davis will shoot up everyone’s draft boards before we hit draft day, but you heard it here first. Rod Davis is the best linebacker in this draft and there are not many impact linebackers in this draft. On my personal board, I list the 1st-round linebackers as Rod Davis, Ted Lehman and Karlos Dansby. The other linebackers that everyone else hypes (including underclassmen), I have serious concerns about and would not select them until the second round. Derrick Johnson of Texas is the fastest, but the worst tackler I have ever seen. So close your eyes, click your ruby red slippers and say three times, “I hope my team picks Rod Davis. I hope my team picks Rod Davis. I hope my team picks Rod Davis.� |
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Joey Thomas CB Montana St Strength Joey has very good size for his position. He has nice long legs and long arms. He has good hip flip to go along with his speed. Joey has good quickness and the ability to change direction equal to the better CB\'s in this draft. Needs to Improve Joey has had some injury problems that have kept him from being on the field. He has a very slight frame. Joey gets pushed around a lot by the receivers. He is not a good tackler at this stage of his career. Joey will need to work hard on his techniques. I’m not convinced that Joey is up to the pounding that his body will take on the NFL level mentally. Bottom Line Joey needs to get a lot stronger. He has very good talent as a cover corner, but in the NFL Joey will have to do more than just cover a receiver. He will have to come up and meet the point of attack on a sweep. He will have to learn to fight through blocks to tackle a WR or a RB. He will have to learn the bump and run techniques that are used in the NFL and he will have to stay injury free for more than five games at a pop to have any impact for the team that picks him. He plays light and doesn\'t tackle very well and gets injured a lot at the level at which he plays now. Imagine what would happen in the NFL. This kid is a personal trainer’s dream come true. Skinny is not the word I would use to describe this kid’s build. I would say, more Bambi-like. In fact, if he doesn\'t get into the weight room soon and become a better tackler, he will get buried in the forest with the other creatures. |
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Keith Smith CB McNeese St Strengths Keith has good size and speed for his position. He is a good cover corner and is very smart. He has good change of direction abilities and is strong. He dominates most receivers at the college level of play. He is a quality kid who takes pride in his abilities and is a good teammate. Needs to Improve The level of play is the biggest concern with Keith and his confidence. These two questions will not be answered for a few years. Keith will have to get stronger and learn the bump and run techniques of the NFL. Bottom Line Cornerbacks with this type of athletic talent that have good size and speed like this kid has are definitely at a premium when it comes to a draft. The problem in this case is the level of competition and Free Agency. You see, it can take a kid from this level of competition about three years to really come up to the level needed to be a starter in the NFL and that’s if he doesn’t get burned too much and lose his confidence. If you sign him to a four-year contract, then you run the risk of training him for another team. So you are the GM, you’re doing the draft, this kid has the talent and maybe the mental makeup. So, what do you do? Beeeep wrong answer, or should I say partially wrong answer. You got the part right about the length, but you have to do something to make this kid want to learn faster. If he doesn’t handle the pressure mentally, it will hurt him in the pocketbook. Watch my lips, INCENTIVE LADEN CONTRACT. A GM’s dream contract come true. You interview him and his agent before the draft and hammer this out before you Draft Day -- then you take a shot and draft him. Keith has the talent to play in the NFL. The only question will be, does he play as a starter or a back-up? Personally, I think he has the talent to be a #2 Corner in the NFL. |
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Great stuff pak, thanks
If Loomis and Co can\'t drasticaly improve this defense with our 1st 4 picks, they just need to pack it up. Donterrious Thomas: I thought he was a MLB, but I was corrected by someone here that he\'ll an OLB, now its back to ILB. What the? He is a pure MLB...If you don\'t respect him and his effort, he just might put YOU through the wall instead. Dontarrious might make the top 15 in this draft, but it really doesn\'t matter to him, so I don’t expect him to push very hard for it. He will start right away and be a main cog in someone\'s defense for a long time. He is a search and destroy type of linebacker. Vilma who? Oh well. I\'m looking forward to this draft and there are about 20 players (CB/LB) the Saints could choose from in the 1st 3 rounds that I\'d be extremely happy with. |
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it all depends if there is a run on a certain position or not. Last year should not be an indication on whats to come this year. Last year there was a run on DT\'s... Saints had the feeling that would happen and moved up to snag Sully.
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I think WR and QB may be the hot run this year. There are about 7 1st round quality WR\'s and 4 1st round quality QB\'s this year. Everyone wants that Moss type WR. The flip side being that many teams may feel they can still get a stud 1st round WR in the 2nd. :( |
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I would wet myself... only thing I would change...
1-CB - Hall, Gamble, or Robinson 2A-OLB-Donterrious Thomas 2B-ILB-Rod Davis 3-CB-Joey Thomas 5-WR 6-FB 7-doesn\'t matter |
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Looking at the Draft order, I\'d say the three teams we would have to worry about would be
10 Texans 11 Steelers 12 Jets 13 Bills 14 Bears 15 Bucs 16 49ers 17 Bengals That said, I think Gamble will go first to the Steelers Jets or Bills, but we may have to jump over the Bengals. I believe the 49ers would take a trade, as they have so many needs this offseason after cutting half their offence. |
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I think, after serious reflection, that I have changed my mind and believe that we should draft a corner in the first round even if Vilma is available.
My thought is that any of the top three or four corners we could draft in the first will be able to start by at least the middle of the season. With one of our second picks, we can draft Rod Davis, who I promise will be the answer we need for the next decade at the position. At 2b, we then have the luxury of picking up the best LB or CB on the board. In the third, we can take either a center (the kid out of Iowa) or a WR. I know I\'m lovin\' hard on Davis lately, but I tell ya, he\'s the real deal. Just wait. We draft him, and you guys can thank me later. Just ask Danno about Davis knockin\' some sense into Andrew Zow a couple of years ago. .02 |
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I think you are right as well... Haslett and company have set this up to draft CB, perhaps 2 CB\'s early. I am thinking They are going to go with Cie Grant in the middle if they have to
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With the looks of Hall\'s pro day, he might have put himself in the top ten. That\'s just what I am hearing. I have a feeling we will draft Robinson if Hall is the only cb gone by the time we pick. We all know that Haslett loves those SEC players in the first round. The only way I wouldn\'t draft a lb or cb with 2A is if Jake Grove is available. I really think this guy would be LeCharles Bentley-type steal. I would be happy with a D. Thomas, R. Davis, or D. Smith. I am all for 2 cbs and 2 lbs with the first 4 picks. It think if we get Bryan Johnson, we may focus on something other than FB in the later rounds. I wouldn\'t mind drafting a kicker in later rounds to compete with Carney. Also, I\'d like to see a safety and a wideout taken in later rounds.
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From a selfish standpoint I’m glad he ran an average 40 at the combine. I think it was around 4.7, I forget. But most scouts consider him “football fast�. He plays a lot faster than his 40 time would indicate, and his 40 time wasn’t bad, it just wasn’t incredible. There was another MLB that put up very modest times at the combine, and was also a tad undersized (225 lbs), and he turned out to be a pretty good MLB. You guys ever hear of a guy named Ray Lewis? Well Davis is faster, and weighs a very natural 240 lbs. I’m officially fixated on Rod Davis or Donterrious Thomas in the 2nd. Moving Cie outside. 1-Hall, Robinson 2A-Davis, Thomas These two picks should immediately address our weaknesses enough to satisfy most. |
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Rod Davis LB Southern Mississippi Strengths Rod is the right size for an NFL linebacker. He has very good speed. He is an attacking linebacker, does not wait for the play to come to him. Rod has excellent instincts and great change of direction. He is effective in the passing game and equally as effective in the running game. Rod has great pass rushing abilities. Rod can play all of the linebacker positions. He has leadership qualities and makes the players around him better. He is a team player in every sense. He has very good tackling technique. Rod is an impact player. Needs to Improve Rod needs to improve his draft rating. He needs to get a good agent and he needs to help improve the marketing department of his school. Rod also needs to inform the NFL draft sites that he is alive and playing linebacker for a college football team. Bottom Line Ladies go to any film of any linebacker in college. I will give you film of any game you want of Rod Davis. I dare you to tell me after looking at the film that Rod is not the best linebacker in this draft. Forget your Miami boys; forget the boys from Auburn, this kid outplays them all. You don\'t believe me? You think I\'m missing a screw? Well, I do not believe what potential agents tell me about a player. I do not believe the marketing people of a college about a player. I do not look at other draft sites and repeat whatever they say just to be one of the guys. I look at film. I look at a lot of film. Rod Davis will shoot up everyone’s draft boards before we hit draft day, but you heard it here first. Rod Davis is the best linebacker in this draft and there are not many impact linebackers in this draft. On my personal board, I list the 1st-round linebackers as Rod Davis, Ted Lehman and Karlos Dansby. The other linebackers that everyone else hypes (including underclassmen), I have serious concerns about and would not select them until the second round. Derrick Johnson of Texas is the fastest, but the worst tackler I have ever seen. So close your eyes, click your ruby red slippers and say three times, “I hope my team picks Rod Davis. I hope my team picks Rod Davis. I hope my team picks Rod Davis.� Drew Boylhart |
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Leh-man! Leh-man! Leh-man!
Haven\'t done that chant in a while, but my football crush on Lehman may rival that of BMG\'s on Eli...well, maybe not. :P |
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Teddy Lehman LB Oklahoma Strengths Ted is one of the fastest linebackers in this draft. He is a total team player. He is excellent in the passing game. He has good size for his position and he has leadership abilities. He is a good tackler in space. Needs to Improve He struggles a bit in the running game. Takes bad angles and runs himself out of the plays. Bottom Line Ted is playing out of position this year because of the injury to Lance Mitchell. Ted is a pure OLB. He is not a MLB. He is one of the best OLB’s in the country. In spite of this, he moved to the inside even though he knew it might hurt his draft rating. He is a great tackler in space. I think Ted is a definite first rounder. He reminds me a lot of Nick Barnett who was a shock pick in the 1st round by the Packers. I do not believe that there is a better OLB in this draft. I know when he starts to work out for teams and they go back to the film of him as a junior, they will see what I see and rate this kid as a first rounder. He will impact the first year on special teams. In the Rod Davis profile, I made an error on my ratings of the LB’s in this draft. I rated Ted as the second best LB in the draft. He is not. He is the third best on my board. Rod Davis, Donta Thomas, Ted Lehman, Karlos Dansby. (That is until I change my mind in another profile). Just kidding! Drew Boylhart |
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