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saintsfan1976 01-19-2012 06:38 AM

More on Spags, Del Rio and the pilfering of Saints coaches
 
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The Saints pressed forward Wednesday in their search for a defensive coordinator, interviewing former Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo and reportedly mulling a host of other candidates.

A one-time defensive coordinator with the New York Giants, Steve Spagnuolo was dismissed as the St. Louis Rams coach after going 10-38 in three seasons. He became the New York Giants' defensive coordinator in 2007 after three years as an assistant coach with the Philadelphia Eagles, and in his first season in New York, the Giants won Super Bowl XLII.

The club declined to comment, but a league source confirmed Spagnuolo's visit to Metairie. With the league's annual offseason coach hiring and firing in full swing, Coach Sean Payton is apparently wasting little time interviewing candidates to replace departed defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, who left for the same post with the St. Louis Rams.

At the same time, Payton has made it clear he does not want to rush into a decision, and he hinted this week he might spend some of his time at the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala., next week meeting with candidates. Payton said he had neither ruled out nor settled on coaches that might make his short list of possible replacements.

Spagnuolo, however, is a highly sought defensive coach and could push Payton's timetable. The Colts have spoken with Spagnuolo, and the Vikings and the Eagles are reportedly interested too.

A one-time defensive coordinator with the New York Giants, Spagnuolo, 52, was dismissed as the Rams coach after going 10-38 in three seasons. He became the Giants' defensive coordinator in 2007 after three years as an assistant coach with the Eagles, and in his first season in New York, the Giants won Super Bowl XLII with a historic upset of the undefeated New England Patriots.

And yet Spagnuolo's defense actually improved from its championship year. In 2007, the Giants defense ranked seventh in the league in yards allowed and 17th in points allowed. The next season, the Giants ranked fifth in the NFL in both categories. While New York's defense slipped from eighth to ninth in rushing yardage, it allowed 15 rushing touchdowns in 2008 after giving up 17 in 2007.

The improvement in passing scores allowed was even more dramatic. Opponents passed for 20 touchdowns against the Giants in 2007 but had only seven in 2008.

The Giants have long had a traditional 4-3 base alignment, as do the Saints, but New York has built a fearsome pass rush, putting a huge emphasis in drafts on dynamic defensive linemen and stockpiling them even when already loaded at those positions.

Payton reportedly had or maintains an interest in some other candidates. One name that cropped up in conversations about Williams' replacement was Mike Nolan, but on Wednesday he was hired as defensive coordinator of the Atlanta Falcons.

Former Jacksonville coach Jack Del Rio has also been mentioned as a candidate in reports citing unnamed sources. A person familiar with Del Rio's situation declined to comment Wednesday, but he has been spotted in the New Orleans and Baton Rouge areas recently. Del Rio, 48, has been a player and a coach with the Saints, and his wife is from Louisiana.

In his early years with the Jaguars, Del Rio's defenses were formidable, but the production fell off sharply. Between 2008 and 2010, Jacksonville's defense was in the bottom half of the NFL in almost all significant categories, although the unit did improve in 2011. Del Rio was also a linebackers coach with Carolina in 2002, and the Panthers' defense sparkled that season.

As Payton acknowledged Tuesday, defensive coordinator is not the only coaching position in a state of flux for New Orleans. He must hire a receivers coach to replace Curtis Johnson, who took the head coaching job at Tulane, and clubs are making attempts to poach his talent, developments that come with winning records and can only be described as complimentary, according to Payton.

Reports surfaced late Wednesday that Saints offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael will interview for the head coaching job at Indianapolis, and Payton confirmed the Raiders have also requested and received permission to interview Carmichael.

Carmichael has emerged as a hot commodity after taking over play-calling duties this past season when Payton had to coach from an overhead box after breaking his knee at Tampa Bay.

Meanwhile, offensive line and running game coach Aaron Kromer, who oversaw a rushing attack that ranked sixth in the NFL last season, has garnered interest from St. Louis.


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Saint_LB 01-19-2012 06:52 AM

I like Del Rio. It is just one of those gut feeling things. I think he would bring a swagger to the Saints that presently is owned only by the offense.

Danno 01-19-2012 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 371508)
I like Del Rio. It is just one of those gut feeling things. I think he would bring a swagger to the Saints that presently is owned only by the offense.

I agree. My only concern is does he have the passion to bring that fire as a coordinator after being a HC for 9 years and just recently being released.

LBCutta 01-19-2012 08:01 AM

I want Spags....I think Del Rio may be tainted by Jax. My gut just says Spags may be the best choice...

papz 01-19-2012 08:20 AM

I think Del Rio would bring a more steady week in week out defense to the table than Spags. However, I've been craving for a strong pass rush for a very long time... which is why I favor Spags.

SmashMouth 01-19-2012 08:34 AM

Are we getting both ?

FinSaint 01-19-2012 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 371542)
Are we getting both ?


I doubt either one would be interested in anything less than a DC position, and since HC and AHC are off the table... there really is only a place for one of them.

Of course, if Del Rio would be willing to take the LB coach position it would be great, but I doubt he'd want to take that big of a step back after being a HC for 9 years.

CharityMike 01-19-2012 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 371571)
I doubt either one would be interested in anything less than a DC position, and since HC and AHC are off the table... there really is only a place for one of them.

Of course, if Del Rio would be willing to take the LB coach position it would be great, but I doubt he'd want to take that big of a step back after being a HC for 9 years.

You never know. This is probably just a pipe dream but if he just bought a house here and kids are in school here, what else is he going to do? Teach yoga? If we go with Spags i'd like to think there maybe a slim chance.

Halo 01-19-2012 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 371542)
Are we getting both ?

SILLY SMASHMOUTH, I TOLD RITA LE BLANC BENSON IN BED LAST NIGHT, "SO LONG AS WE DON'T GET JIM HASLETT, I'M COOL WIT' IT."

aquaboogie 01-19-2012 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 371582)
SILLY SMASHMOUTH, I TOLD RITA LE BLANC BENSON IN BED LAST NIGHT, "SO LONG AS WE DON'T GET JIM HASLETT, I'M COOL WIT' IT."

Wow LOL!!!

st thomas 01-19-2012 10:31 AM

i believe it will be spags , i'll go on a limb and say he is aready a handshake hire. the details of the hire are being hammered out right as we speak before the official announcement. payton wants this done before he can get a good nights sleep after 2 yrs of fail by our last DC

CharityMike 01-19-2012 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 371591)
i believe it will be spags , i'll go on a limb and say he is aready a handshake hire. the details of the hire are being hammered out right as we speak before the official announcement. payton wants this done before he can get a good nights sleep after 2 yrs of fail by our last DC

Sounds good in theory. Let's hope!!

FinSaint 01-19-2012 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 371579)
You never know. This is probably just a pipe dream but if he just bought a house here and kids are in school here, what else is he going to do? Teach yoga? If we go with Spags i'd like to think there maybe a slim chance.


Maybe Del Rio will be a stay-at-home dad... I'm sure he can afford it.


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st thomas 01-19-2012 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 371596)
Sounds good in theory. Let's hope!!

i'm just yackin away Cmike but i'll take it if thats whats happening

halloween 65 01-19-2012 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 371582)
SILLY SMASHMOUTH, I TOLD RITA LE BLANC BENSON IN BED LAST NIGHT, "SO LONG AS WE DON'T GET JIM HASLETT, I'M COOL WIT' IT."

It's good to have friends in high places!

FinSaint 01-19-2012 11:27 AM

Talking about the defensive coordinators... this is somewhat surprising if it is in fact correct, since I always thought that Nolan was strictly a base 3-4 mentality coordinator.


NFL.com news: New coordinator Nolan thinks Falcons can soar with 4-3 defense

saintfan 01-19-2012 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 371582)
SILLY SMASHMOUTH, I TOLD RITA LE BLANC BENSON IN BED LAST NIGHT, "SO LONG AS WE DON'T GET JIM HASLETT, I'M COOL WIT' IT."

How were the potato chips?

SmashMouth 01-19-2012 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 371582)
SILLY SMASHMOUTH, I TOLD RITA LE BLANC BENSON IN BED LAST NIGHT, "SO LONG AS WE DON'T GET JIM HASLETT, I'M COOL WIT' IT."

I wonder if she knows Zoey? Hmmmmmmmm!

Byubengal 01-19-2012 06:24 PM

Since we have the "Spagonator" now, why not bring in Del Rio to work with the LB's. It may be the only chance he (Del Rio) is going to have in getting to the big dance, besides it would be somewhat of a home coming for him.
He played here and his wife is from the Buyou Country

FinSaint 01-19-2012 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Byubengal (Post 371805)
Since we have the "Spagonator" now, why not bring in Del Rio to work with the LB's. It may be the only chance he (Del Rio) is going to have in getting to the big dance, besides it would be somewhat of a home coming for him.
He played here and his wife is from the Buyou Country


Not sure he would want that and more importantly not sure Spags would want him in his staff.


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