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saintfan 01-19-2012 07:35 PM

How Will Spagnuolo Fit With Saints?
 
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This is a big victory for the Saints because I’m pretty sure Spagnuolo is the guy Sean Payton had targeted for this job, probably even before previous coordinator Gregg Williams left for St. Louis and a reunion with Jeff Fisher after the Saints lost in the playoffs.

If you want a picture of a Spagnuolo defense, don’t think too much about the St. Louis team he had been the head coach of since 2009.

Think more of the New York Giants, when Spagnoulo was their defensive coordinator in 2007 and ’08. The Giants won the Super Bowl in the 2007 season. Prior to that, Spagnoulo had a long run as an assistant with the Philadelphia Eagles, who played in four NFC Championship Games during his tenure. Spagnuolo worked for the Eagles from 1999 through 2006.

In short, his defense -- in theory -- is a lot like we’ve seen out of the Giants this postseason. It relies on a lot of pressure from the front four and not much blitzing. Spagnuolo prefers tall/angular cornerbacks that can play man-to-man coverage and also likes playmakers at safety.
How Steve Spagnuolo fits with Saints - NFC South Blog - ESPN

|Mitch| 01-19-2012 07:53 PM

I wonder what players on the defense will stay and those unlucky enough to be sent packing?

Byubengal 01-19-2012 08:06 PM

I have to agree with article. The "Spagonator" runs a different type of "D". I don't think we have the guys up front to get the pressure he likes to put on the offense. Some of the young guys we have can possibly be "coached up". But I think he will try and get some guys from the Giants and the Rams, who are young and played under him for a year or two. He can bring them in and possibly work them into the system. If anything it will push the existing guys to "get it" or move on.

QBREES9 01-19-2012 08:26 PM

I think Coach Payton said something like this to Gregg Williams.

I'm not going to fire you. But if your buddy Jeff Fisher gets a head coaching job I suggest you go !

Welcome aboard Coach Spagnoulo. You do have big shoes to fill. He ( Gregg Williams ) did help bring us a Super Bowl.

saintsfan1976 01-19-2012 09:17 PM

Sounds like Jenkins, Greer and Vilma are the only safe bets to return in 2012.

QBREES9 01-19-2012 09:31 PM

Or the question how will the Saints fit with Spagnoulo.

st thomas 01-19-2012 10:54 PM

i think spags will rejuvenate this defense that gw just frankly tired out and other teams figured out.

The Dude 01-20-2012 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 371850)
I wonder what players on the defense will stay and those unlucky enough to be sent packing?

In all honesty there is not one player on defense I would be upset about letting go. Not one. Please name one player that could not be upgraded for the same amount of money if not less.

FinSaint 01-20-2012 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 371942)
In all honesty there is not one player on defense I would be upset about letting go. Not one. Please name one player that could not be upgraded for the same amount of money if not less.


Tom Johnson

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neugey 01-20-2012 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 371942)
In all honesty there is not one player on defense I would be upset about letting go. Not one. Please name one player that could not be upgraded for the same amount of money if not less.

Keep Greer. Williams put him on an island with all the blitzing we did and he held up quite well. Was great in run support too.

dizzle88 01-20-2012 07:45 AM

Greer was our best defender all season, you have to keep him.
Also keep pat Robinson, he showed improvement towards the end of the season and is a whole lot better than Tracy porter at this moment in time (didn't think I'd be saying that two years ago, when porter picked off manning)
Keep Quddus Aswell, I think he has some instincts at FS that could be used in spags defense

Euphoria 01-20-2012 08:04 AM

Keep your eye on Johnny Patrick.

Its going to be refreshing when we are able to prevent BIG plays!

You can't blitz all the time you have to keep them guessing and mix up the coverage. GW benefited because of Sharper and Sharper only.

Danno 01-20-2012 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 371942)
In all honesty there is not one player on defense I would be upset about letting go. Not one. Please name one player that could not be upgraded for the same amount of money if not less.

Galette
Martez
Dunbar
Greer
Robinson
Patrick
Jenkins
Jordan
Amaya
Quddus
Bussey

halloween 65 01-20-2012 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 371975)
Galette
Martez
Dunbar
Greer
Robinson
Patrick
Jenkins
Jordan
Amaya
Quddus
Bussey

All the young bulls, although I think Quaddus gives Jenkins a run for his money at safety this year.

papz 01-20-2012 08:17 AM

I just wanted to throw this out there...

Remember Spags tried to sign Shanle to be a starter in St. Louis last season before he re-upped with the Saints.

halloween 65 01-20-2012 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 371979)
I just wanted to throw this out there...

Remember Spags tried to sign Shanle to be a starter in St. Louis last season before he re-upped with the Saints.

Spags is a smart man. It's going to be a great season.

Euphoria 01-20-2012 08:24 AM

I don't give a crap who we keep and let go... JUST GET this BS turned around.


I would be disappointed the day Porter leaves us. I mean SB memory for all of time.

Danno 01-20-2012 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 371977)
All the young bulls, although I think Quaddus gives Jenkins a run for his money at safety this year.

Yep, I'm excited to see how many of them develop.

The disappointments this year were mostly the stop-gap vets and aging players like Smith, Rogers, Shanle, Vilma, McBride and to a lesser extent Franklin. Franklin was pretty good versus the run.

Mardigras9 01-20-2012 10:25 AM

At least we won't "live by the blitz" and most recently "die by the blitz". A more balanced D will make the whole lot look better. The front four better dedicate themselves in the off season or their days may be numbered.

RaginCajun83 01-20-2012 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 371979)
I just wanted to throw this out there...

Remember Spags tried to sign Shanle to be a starter in St. Louis last season before he re-upped with the Saints.

Are you serious? Damn it, hopefully this was the Rams just trying to get him cause he was part of a team that won the Superbowl. Come on Spags cut this waste of space

FinSaint 01-20-2012 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 371975)
Galette
Martez
Dunbar
Greer
Robinson
Patrick
Jenkins
Jordan
Amaya
Quddus
Bussey

I'd also add....

Casillas
Humber
Johnson
Romeus
Charleston (with some reservations)

joker-saint 01-20-2012 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 371975)
Galette
Martez
Dunbar
Greer
Robinson
Patrick
Jenkins
Jordan
Amaya
Quddus
Bussey

I couldn't have chosen them better. I still feel like will smith should stay though. He has provided constant pressure on the edge which would open up opportunities for either himself or jenkins to pressure the quarterback. Ellis hasn't done crap since the championship and should be traded while he still has value. He kind of reminds me of. It Norman Hand when he was finished with the Saints. It would be nice to get somebody like Clay Matthews in that position. Who is available?

SapperSaint 01-20-2012 07:11 PM

To answer the question asked.

(In my best Ace Ventura voice)

Like a glove!

FinSaint 01-20-2012 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by joker-saint (Post 372156)
I couldn't have chosen them better. I still feel like will smith should stay though. He has provided constant pressure on the edge which would open up opportunities for either himself or jenkins to pressure the quarterback. Ellis hasn't done crap since the championship and should be traded while he still has value. He kind of reminds me of. It Norman Hand when he was finished with the Saints. It would be nice to get somebody like Clay Matthews in that position. Who is available?


Well Ellis has very little worth in my mind, since he has that 1st rounder contract going on without the productivity to go along with it... it would be a lower round pick or picks at best. Matthews plays LB and Ellis is a 3-tech DT, so it is hard to compare the two... also the fact that the other plays LB in 3-4 system and the other plays DT in a 4-3 doesn't really give an opportunity to make any fair comparisons in my mind.

gandhi1007 01-20-2012 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by joker-saint (Post 372156)
I still feel like will smith should stay though. He has provided constant pressure on the edge

WHEN???????????


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