Shanle-'Opponents solved Williams defense'
 

LB Scott Shanle on the Saints defense recently: “When you run the type of defenses we ran with Gregg (Williams) in the division, you start to get teams that understand what you’re doing and all start to scheme you the same way. ... After a while, it starts to get tough to play defense when you feel like teams are (ready) week in and week out when you blitz so much.”

Shanie: Opponents solved Williams' defense - New Orleans Saints - CBSSports.com RapidReports

Teams also figured out you suck Shanle

LOL I was gonna say, Gregg Williams responded by saying "OPPONENTS SOLVED SHANLE'S SHODDY LINEBACKER PLAY"

:p

its funny they say this after Williams is gone

^^^ It's called diverting attention away from yourself. LOL ^^^

It's also called not throwing your coach under the bus... But, once he's not your coach anymore, you can say whatever you want about him. :D

And it's also called the truth... Looks like Shanle won't be following GW to the rams!

I have to agree.... After our superbowl year, it seemed as if teams knew exactly what our defense was gonna do every down. The Seattle game always comes to mind. A better defensive scheme, with better tackling, and more fire, and i could see this team not playing for their second ring, but their third in a few weeks.... Instead, now we get to watch from the couch....

And you don't think the two are connected at all? If the opponents has figured out your scheme they gonna make your players look bad because they come to play too.

This is how Gregg was treated after '09

William's D got solved the same way when he was in Jacksonville. Just like Capers has in Green Bay. This new DC plays Jimmy Johnson D, nothing fancy but highly effective, just like it should be, great push with the front 4 and and ocassional lb. crashing the qb., safe but stout. Don't be to suprised if Shanle stays and thrives in his D.

Ya think?!
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Good one lmao

I'm disappointed Shanle said that. It makes me think there may have been some tension towards the end.

Shanle is a very smart player and will likely make a good NFL coach someday. He probably spoke up about the schemes in meetings and was shot down.

Shanle's not nearly as bad as many say but certainly isn't what I'd call a good LB. He's a lot like Fujita... average.

I think so too. His football IQ is very high and he's typically in position to make plays. If he has some more athleticism, he could have been a very good football player imo. I think he'll make a great position coach for someone down the road... very fundamental.

That's an insult to Fujita! As mediocre as Fujita was, he was smarter and FASTER than Shanle ever was. So what does that make Shanle?

Really?? Exhibit A (sound fx) has shown that he is neither smart or ever in a position to make a play. Had he been, we would be going to the dome to play the Giants.

Shanle needs to GO! He is just not effective. The players on the bench are better than him with a little coaching!

here's a new one: if we had someone better than Shanle, then that player would be on the field.


I do not think Shanle is a stud LB, but yes, he is smart, and what he said IS true. The fact he waited until GW left shows he was a team player and did what he was told, and did not undermine his 'coach'

Well HELL...lets all go over and give him a hug for being such a wonderful person!! We can get in a big circle and sing nursery rhymes together.

The level of mediocrity some of you people are willing to accept is mind boggling. Keep telling yourself that if someone else was better they would have been in there. Whatever helps you sleep at night. Keep in mind the same person putting Shanle on the field was the one to say "Roman Harper is the best player on the defense" That in itself should squash that!

In 9 YEARS!!! He has a total of 544 tackles. Avg 60.4 a year (only 389 solo)
8.5 SACKS!!! In 9 EFF'n YEARS!! wait...I got one even better that that..3 INT's!!!! 2 of which came in one year!!!

Yeah..he is great. Lets make him a LB coach, just please not here. We want our LB to be better not BELOW AVG!!

How in the world you came to that conclusion is more mind boggling Mike.

Easily..anybody willing to give him a pass OR say he is avg. That's how.

So saying he's a mediocre player equates to being willing to accept it?

Thats ridiculous.

My thinking exactly!:D

OK BACK ON TOPIC...........
 

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Ok, back to the original topic, Shanle said Williams defense was solved by opponents.

I think Shanle is right, it is the truth. Williams was brought in to give us a "one hit of wonder" so we could have a defense aggressive enough to match our offense and win a SuperBowl. He did just that, and we need to thank him. But teams immediately began to adjust.

I also think Sharper was a field general coach. He kept those DB's catching balls and making INT's. Since he's left, our DB's have never been the same.

:bng:

The number of picks they left on the field this year is mind boggling. I can think of 10X the ball went directly through their hands, and those are just the ones I remember. And Shanle, the one and only pick he got...he actually got burned bad on that play but by sheer luck, it bounced right in his hands. He can say whatever he wants because it won't matter next year. See ya.

The man has a Superbowl ring that none of us will ever have! ;-]]

If he retires tomorrow he has seen the top of his profession, even though he dwells near the center of his peers with respect to skill and ability at the Linebacker position.

I'm just pleased to hear that WE were not the only ones seeing what was going on. That the players knew that as they ran onto the field, we were in a losing position and happened to overcome that on 13 occasions during the regular season.

I've been calling for the "man-boob", Greg Williams, to get thrown under the bus by SOMEONE for some time, but really, I'm pleased that we were more professional than that and got through it.

Now...

ON TO THE HOMEGAME SUPER BOWL!!!

Alaska

He said, "man-boob"
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OK, BACK ON TOPIC!

THANKS FOR 2009 GREGG WILLIAMS!!!!!

Shanle-'Opponents solved Williams defense' Tell us something we don't know.

I don't care what they are saying about each other. Just fix our defense.

How did you make the connection between me thinking he was good (or medoicre) and accepting it?
He said something that everyone on this board has said numerous times, and I agreed with him.
Did you misunderstand the part where I said he was NOT a great linebacker?

He is completely wrong.

Look we don't have the players who can rush the QB. If we did, it wouldn't matter if they knew what we are doing because we'd still be able to get to the QB or cover with speeding OLB's which Shanle is not.

He is a fraud and an idiot.

Only way he makes the team is a back up.

I don't agree with this at all. Prime example: We had Rob Ninkovich. We let him go and kept Shanle. Ninkovich had one helluva season. Shanle had, well.....a Shanle season. So.....there is something more there than "we didn't have anyone better".

Shut up, Shanle!

Watching the NYGs right now. If we had a Justin Tuck or Jason Pierre-Paul, teams wouldn't have "solved" anything.

Offenses win by scheming, defenses win by being better players.

I believe there was a pick missed in the Niner game, that would have sealed he game for us too.... I think it was Robinson that missed it... Coulda, woulda, shoulda though....

Vilma speaks highly of Shanle. I'll take his word for it over any fan.

Williams wasn't getting it done. They let him go. Cest la vie.
Same thing happened to Reggie Bush.

Shanle had some good games this year. He made enough plays in my mind to think he'd do okay in a different defense. We aren't all that starved for talent on the defensive side of things. GW was a one trick pony. He was effective enough against the right kind of offense, but when he'd encounter something different, he'd just hold on and hope we'd have the ball last. Hopefully Spag'll be able to adapt and adjust to what's happening on the field.

If you'd notice on the game winning score to V.Davis the 49ers TE was running a crossing route which lead Shanle right in the path of that pass and what he do ..... he %$#@ STOP it wasn't Robinson it was Shanle

I hate to go back to the Buddy Ryan days but the whole league knew he ran the 46-week in and out and if memory serves correct they never got gashed in the run nor the pass in the manner our defense has played also GW didn’t have the type of players he truly needed to run that system. Just think if we had the one stud D-lineman and the one stud LB (Vilma was approaching studdism prior to injuries) the tunes would have been different. Granted they may come up with an offense game plan but if your D is on it’s on. The Giants and 49ers play that type of D all season so no SHANLE they figured out that YOU and ROMAN HARPER are week links in coverage. If it was me Fujita would have stayed;

I must say I'm a little stunned to see Shanle said something like this. It is true and someone had to say it, I'm just surprised Shanle stepped up and said it.

Theres a bunch of Shanle haters out there and a few Shanle supporters, all in all you have to give him credit where its due though, the guy came into the league as a 7th rounder got bounced around from St. Louis to Dallas then got traded for a 7th rounder to New Orleans, won a Super Bowl Ring. All you haters ***** and moan about how mediocre he is. SOMETIMES YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!