He's officially Bad

TheOak · 01-28-2012, 03:24 PM

SpagNOLA will decide.

Vilma may be like great pizza dough.... Make it cover too much area and it will have problems.... Lets put talent around Vilma since he seems to be the most intelligent option.

halloween 65 · 01-31-2012, 09:53 AM

Vilma needs to go, to light to play the middle in a 4/3 scheme. Way overrated if you ask me and over paid also. Spags D will be new to him just like every Saints player thats here now, don't be to surprised if Vilma is gone this year, I'll be surprised if he stays. We need a thumper in the middle, with some weight and speed. I see Wilson starting in the middle this year.

Euphoria · 01-31-2012, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Vilma needs to go, to light to play the middle in a 4/3 scheme. Way overrated if you ask me and over paid also. Spags D will be new to him just like every Saints player thats here now, don't be to surprised if Vilma is gone this year, I'll be surprised if he stays. We need a thumper in the middle, with some weight and speed. I see Wilson starting in the middle this year.

Dude what are you smoking... because I sure want not part of that.

halloween 65 · 01-31-2012, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Dude what are you smoking... because I sure want not part of that.

Look at his stats and field play for the last 2 dreadful years, and I only smoke the best!! How about you!!!

FinSaint · 01-31-2012, 12:15 PM

I don't think 2010 was that bad for Vilma and we have to remember that he was playing injured for the latter part of that season, and he played injured all through this season.

Assuming he has healed from those past injuries and that he stays injury free this next coming season - working within much better defensive schemes and with an improved LB corps as a whole - he might have a couple of really good seasons left in him.

Based on the 2009 season, he isn't being over-payed, but based on the last two he is, so who knows what they'll do with his contract, but I'm pretty sure he'll be back next season playing in the black and gold.

Danno · 01-31-2012, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Look at his stats and field play for the last 2 dreadful years, and I only smoke the best!! How about you!!!

Agreed. His play has dropped off significantly the last two years because of his knees.

If he can get back to 100%, he's obviously a keeper. But can he?

His game is speed and quickness. Both have dropped off. Are his knees shot?

FinSaint · 01-31-2012, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Agreed. His play has dropped off significantly the last two years because of his knees.

If he can get back to 100%, he's obviously a keeper. But can he?

His game is speed and quickness. Both have dropped off. Are his knees shot?

Yes exactly, only the physios and trainers of the Saints know what his situation is, and I'm confident that the organization will make a decision based on that information, which will be both the right one for the organization and for the player going forward.

If his knees are in a similar state to what f.e. Lofa Tatupu's were - it's hard to see Vilma himself wanting to play anymore and risk being forced to live out the rest of his life with decreased mobility because if it.

01-31-2012, 10:57 AM	#23
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by halloween 65 Vilma needs to go, to light to play the middle in a 4/3 scheme. Way overrated if you ask me and over paid also. Spags D will be new to him just like every Saints player thats here now, don't be to surprised if Vilma is gone this year, I'll be surprised if he stays. We need a thumper in the middle, with some weight and speed. I see Wilson starting in the middle this year. Dude what are you smoking... because I sure want not part of that.

01-31-2012, 11:22 AM	#24
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Originally Posted by Euphoria Dude what are you smoking... because I sure want not part of that. Look at his stats and field play for the last 2 dreadful years, and I only smoke the best!! How about you!!!

01-31-2012, 12:15 PM	#25
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	I don't think 2010 was that bad for Vilma and we have to remember that he was playing injured for the latter part of that season, and he played injured all through this season. Assuming he has healed from those past injuries and that he stays injury free this next coming season - working within much better defensive schemes and with an improved LB corps as a whole - he might have a couple of really good seasons left in him. Based on the 2009 season, he isn't being over-payed, but based on the last two he is, so who knows what they'll do with his contract, but I'm pretty sure he'll be back next season playing in the black and gold. Euphoria likes this.
	"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno

01-31-2012, 02:39 PM	#26
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Originally Posted by halloween 65 Look at his stats and field play for the last 2 dreadful years, and I only smoke the best!! How about you!!! Agreed. His play has dropped off significantly the last two years because of his knees. If he can get back to 100%, he's obviously a keeper. But can he? His game is speed and quickness. Both have dropped off. Are his knees shot?

01-31-2012, 04:05 PM	#27
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	Originally Posted by Danno Agreed. His play has dropped off significantly the last two years because of his knees. If he can get back to 100%, he's obviously a keeper. But can he? His game is speed and quickness. Both have dropped off. Are his knees shot? Yes exactly, only the physios and trainers of the Saints know what his situation is, and I'm confident that the organization will make a decision based on that information, which will be both the right one for the organization and for the player going forward. If his knees are in a similar state to what f.e. Lofa Tatupu's were - it's hard to see Vilma himself wanting to play anymore and risk being forced to live out the rest of his life with decreased mobility because if it.

01-28-2012, 03:24 PM	#21
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	SpagNOLA will decide. Vilma may be like great pizza dough.... Make it cover too much area and it will have problems.... Lets put talent around Vilma since he seems to be the most intelligent option.

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01-31-2012, 09:53 AM	#22
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Vilma needs to go, to light to play the middle in a 4/3 scheme. Way overrated if you ask me and over paid also. Spags D will be new to him just like every Saints player thats here now, don't be to surprised if Vilma is gone this year, I'll be surprised if he stays. We need a thumper in the middle, with some weight and speed. I see Wilson starting in the middle this year.

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