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Danno 02-07-2012 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 376411)
Maybe so but it is the way it is. Thank the media.

Disagree completely.
Sincerely,
Dan Marino
Warren Moon
Jim Kelly
Archie Manning
Fran Tarkenton
George Blanda
Roman Gabriel
Sonny Jergunsen
YA Tittle
Dan Fouts

Look Ahead 02-07-2012 11:33 AM

No Eil is not elite
Elite should means top 10% of starting QB's in the NFL.

1.)Brees
2.)Rogers
3.)P. Manning (if healthy) if not Brady

iceshack149 02-07-2012 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 376411)
Maybe so but it is the way it is. Thank the media.

This is our discussion, not the media's.
Eli is a great QB. With the team winning the Superbowl it helps his case for being labeled "great."

Arguing that great QB's without rings are not great is a fallacy and poor logic.

CharityMike 02-07-2012 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 376438)
This is our discussion, not the media's.
Eli is a great QB. With the team winning the Superbowl it helps his case for being labeled "great."

Arguing that great QB's without rings are not great is a fallacy and poor logic.

#1 I know this is our discussion k thanks.
#2 I am not arguing ANYTHING. All I know is NO ONE wanted to call Drew elite in 2006 - 2008. It took him winning the SB in 2009 to START getting mentioned as elite and again, I am not talking about us as fans.

So people mentioning names like Newton as elite is just moronic. (no offense to whoever said that)

saintfan 02-07-2012 03:46 PM

I blame John Clayton who wants to extend the "elite" moniker all the way down to Matt Ryan. :brood:

jeanpierre 02-08-2012 12:55 PM

Eli is elite.

When the postseason comes, he has been clutch - twice, not a fluke.

Yes, he's elite.

His numbers are right there with the best - and he's sharing the ball in a balanced offense.

Saint_LB 02-08-2012 01:52 PM

Found this for comparison sake...you be the judge.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/footba...30-1.3493231#2

SapperSaint 02-08-2012 02:44 PM

[QUOTE=CharityMike;376474So people mentioning names like Newton as elite is just moronic. (no offense to whoever said that)[/QUOTE]

I mentioned Newton as a potential Elite "B".

Like him or not for the whole Auburn thing.... The kid is a player. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of his. But I do recognize ability when I see it. He had a great year for a Rookie QB. If....IF he keeps up that performance and gets better; he will be a QB to fear.

Almost 5,000 passing and rushing yards. He's finished 10th in passing yards.

When I think of Elite QB's; I think of QB's that you want to have the ball in their hands when the game is on the line.

No offense taken, by the way.

gandhi1007 02-08-2012 06:29 PM

Eli is a top 5 QB in the league. Does that make him elite? I don't think so. The elite status belongs to guys like Brady, Brees, Peyton Manning, & maybe.....maybe Aaron Rodgers if he puts up a few more big years. Warren Moon put up big numbers & won big games. Was he elite? My opinion is NO......same as Eli.

Danno 02-08-2012 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gandhi1007 (Post 376830)
Warren Moon put up big numbers & won big games. Was he elite? My opinion is NO......same as Eli.

I would probably place Moon in the ELITE category. He was a much better QB than Eli is now, and imagine his numbers if he played his entire pro-career in the NFL. For those that don't remember he spent 6 years setting records in the CFL before he came into the NFL.

He was certainly elite in my eyes.


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