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Danno 04-06-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 395610)
and while some love Harper's FF/Sack Stat line, he's given up key, big plays in pass coverage that have bounced the Saints out of the playoffs two years running; while there are quality backups on the roster, Safety now is under the microscope.

It was Jenkins that gave up the big plays this year in the playoffs.

blackangold 04-06-2012 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 395610)
2012 New Orleans Saints Depth Chart

Note: Free Agent Signing/Retainer or Acquisition in Bold; Needs indicated in Italics

WR Marques Colston, Adrian Arrington, Joe Morgan
TE Jimmy Graham, David Thomas
LT Jermon Bushrod
LG Ben Grubbs, Eric Olsen
C Brian De La Puente
RG Jahri Evans, Matt Tennant
RT Zach Strief, Charles Brown
WR Lance Moore, Devery Henderson
QB Drew Brees, Chase Daniel
FB Jed Collins, Korey Hall
RB Mark Ingram, Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Chris Ivory

RDE Will Smith, Turk McBride, Greg Romeus
RDT Sedrick Ellis, Mitch King
LDT Brodrick Bunkley, Tom Johnson
LDE Cam Jordan, Junior Galette
SLB Scott Shanle, Martez Wilson, Jonathan Casillas
MLB Curtis Lofton, Jon Vilma, Ramon Humber
WLB David Hawthorne, Chris Chamberlain, Will Herring
LCB Jabari Greer
SS Roman Harper; Jonathon Amaya
FS Malcolm Jenkins; Isa Abdul-Quddus
RCB Patrick Robinson, Johnny Patrick


I cant support the Saints if Shanle starts again this year with all the talent we have now.
Just kidding ill always love my Saints, but ill be pissed!

Posted this in another thread but it belongs here:
CB-Jabarri Greer
CB-Patrick Robinson/Patrick
S-Roman Harper
S-Malcolm Jenkins
SLB-Mr. Wilson/Chamberlian
MLB-Curtis Lofton
WLB-David Hawthorne/Jonathan Vilma(will be suspended)
DT-Brodrick Bunkley/Johnson/Cam Jordan
DT-Sedrick Ellis/Cam Jordan
DE-Will Smith/Turk Mcbride/Jeff Charlston
DE-Junior Galette/Greg Romeous

-Need to draft a DT
-Cam Jordan is not made to be a DE
-Hawthorne played mike and will
- Vilma will miss the season
-Chamberlain will be much like Herring (lots of hope but not much else)
-This will in no way be the same D, 5 new starters in the front 7 alone combined with a new DC. I am more excited about our D then I have ever been ... WHO DAT

jeanpierre 04-06-2012 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 395629)
It was Jenkins that gave up the big plays this year in the playoffs.

Uh no Danno, it was Harper...


Danno 04-06-2012 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 395708)

Uhhh no JP, you're wrong, that was one play and that was hardly the reason we were bounced from the playoffs.

Jenkins gave up several during that game.

Shall we review the Malcom Jenkins thread after the game...

http://blackandgold.com/saints/40380...m-jenkins.html

gandhi1007 04-06-2012 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 395709)
Uhhh no JP, you're wrong, that was one play and that was hardly the reason we were bounced from the playoffs.

Jenkins gave up several during that game.

Shall we review the Malcom Jenkins thread after the game...

http://blackandgold.com/saints/40380...m-jenkins.html

I gotta' go with Danno on this one. Jenkins got beat like a bongo in that game & most of the regular season. Harper did his job solidly. That's probably why he was voted to the Pro Bowl.....again.

jeanpierre 04-06-2012 10:27 PM

It was a play that surrendered a touchdown; and on the previous play Jenkins was burnt at the line and Harper was late on the backside along with a bad angle and a mistackle...

Watch video at 1:54 and see

jeanpierre 04-06-2012 10:54 PM

And five more reasons why we need to upgrade Strong Safety...


1:12 J Nelson is covered by ?

1:50 J Finley is covered by ?

2:00 Cobb is covered by ?

2:36 Starks runs over a 'hard hitting safety' for the score, guess who?

5:20 The thing Harper is suppose to do well (sacks) and he needs help from Gallette to bring Rodgers down...

Wanna looks at that Seattle game in the previous playoffs?

jeanpierre 04-06-2012 10:57 PM

The teams that have beaten us know to geaux after Harper in coverage...

And Jenkins is starting to stink in coverage as bad as Harper...

One of two things has to happen; either Spagnuolo can coach these boys up or Spags gets his own boys either draft or free agency...

blackangold 04-07-2012 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 395754)
The teams that have beaten us know to geaux after Harper in coverage...

And Jenkins is starting to stink in coverage as bad as Harper...

One of two things has to happen; either Spagnuolo can coach these boys up or Spags gets his own boys either draft or free agency...

You do realize Safeties generally are needed to play zone coverage right? GW rarely played zone with safeties because he blitzed to much. Essentially asking Harper to be a nickle CB. Also, I can look at game film through the season showing you all of Drew's INTs and if you didn't know better you would think he is avg at best.

Danno 04-07-2012 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 395824)
You do realize Safeties for generally are needed to play zone coverage right? GW rarely played zone with safeties because he blitzed to much. Essentially asking Harper to be a nickle CB. Also, I can look at game film through the season showing you all of Drew's INTs and if you didn't know better you would think he is avg at best.

Forget it, this has been going on for years. He's not gonna change.

I think he stills thinks Harper's the reason we lost the Seattle game.


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