2012 Draft - Saints Mock Drafts

Danno · 04-22-2012, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

No DT?!

Sorry, but I can't agree with that seeing as this year you can get a good DT even with a low pick and the Saints desperately need depth at DT.

I'd think we definitley target some of them, but we've all seem Loomis pass up need for BPA before.

I have a feeling though that in round 3 there should be a few DT's that are probably also BPA.

And I'd imagine Spags has a list of journeyman DT's that can fill out a rotation just fine if we need it.

FinSaint · 04-22-2012, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I'd think we definitley target some of them, but we've all seem Loomis pass up need for BPA before.

I have a feeling though that in round 3 there should be a few DT's that are probably also BPA.

And I'd imagine Spags has a list of journeyman DT's that can fill out a rotation just fine if we need it.

I agree and I do also think that some DTs will be the BPA at some point in the draft when the Saints are picking.

CheramieIII · 04-22-2012, 09:25 AM

Just going on our track record and all of these players would be BPA. Like Danno said I think we'll find an undrafted guy or 2 or a unsigned fa to fill the void cheap rotational players are easy to find

jeanpierre · 04-22-2012, 10:29 AM

Cher'? Jenkins?

Waaay too much baggage - let 'em geaux to the Cowboys or Jets...

Especially with Coach Payton stuck in the Phantom Zone 0.72 Krypton years....

FinSaint · 04-22-2012, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

Just going on our track record and all of these players would be BPA. Like Danno said I think we'll find an undrafted guy or 2 or a unsigned fa to fill the void cheap rotational players are easy to find

OK, fair enough, but I do believe that some DTs will be the BPA when the Saints are picking and I have to believe that the need for a quality DT to develop under Spags will be greater than for another WR.

With this year's DT class it would make much more sense to pick a young DT who can make the transition to being a starter in a fairly short period of time seeing as Ellis is entering his last year under contract and all other DTs except for Bunkley are still very unproven and unexperienced.

I think it's much easier to find a quality UDFA WR if that is in fact what they are looking for, and like it has been said before - having a strong interior D-line will have a positive trickle down effect on the DBs.

jeanpierre · 04-23-2012, 10:11 PM

Wolfe has been the only DT that I like that is getting any noise right now and he's moving up the charts out of the Saints picking range...

|Mitch| · 04-23-2012, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Wolfe has been the only DT that I like that is getting any noise right now and he's moving up the charts out of the Saints picking range...

Billy Winn DE/DT from Boise State I have seen mentioned in a few mock drafts for us. He should be available in the 3rd when we pick. He looks to have a lot of potential!

Billy Winn*|*Boise State,*DE*:*2012 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

FinSaint · 04-24-2012, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Billy Winn DE/DT from Boise State I have seen mentioned in a few mock drafts for us. He should be available in the 3rd when we pick. He looks to have a lot of potential!

Billy Winn*|*Boise State,*DE*:*2012 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

So, another hybrid DE/DT. He seems promising on paper and I do think that the versatility these hybrids like Wolfe and Winn have will be a plus in Spags' schemes, because he likes to move those front 4 guys around a lot.

lsutigerfan · 04-24-2012, 04:48 PM

Would love to see Derek Wolfe, but I doubt it. Give me either.

Derek Wolfe DT-Cinncinati
Josh Chapman DT-Alabama
Travis Lewis LB-Oklahoma

jeanpierre · 04-27-2012, 06:18 AM

JP's 2012 Saints Mock Draft

R3 Josh Norman, DB, Coastal Carolina

R4 Brandon Hardin, SS, Oregon State

R5 Tank Carder, OLB, TCU

R6 Elvis Fisher, OT, Missouri

R6 Blake Decristopher, OT, Virginia Tech

R6 Travian Robertson, DT, South Carolina

R7 David Paulson, TE, Oregon

Understanding BPA is how you continually improve a roster - if there are options and you look at the Saints roster these are guys that could be available when the Saints pick that could make a positive impact and meet needs on this team...

Guys I wish we could draft are Derek Wolfe, Mychal Kendricks, Reuben Randle, Bobby Massie, Bobby Wagner, Terrell Manning, Brandon Taylor, Markele Martin and Amini Silatolu...

04-22-2012, 08:12 AM	#91
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Originally Posted by FinSaint No DT?! Sorry, but I can't agree with that seeing as this year you can get a good DT even with a low pick and the Saints desperately need depth at DT. I'd think we definitley target some of them, but we've all seem Loomis pass up need for BPA before. I have a feeling though that in round 3 there should be a few DT's that are probably also BPA. And I'd imagine Spags has a list of journeyman DT's that can fill out a rotation just fine if we need it. FinSaint likes this.

04-22-2012, 08:23 AM	#92
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	Originally Posted by Danno I'd think we definitley target some of them, but we've all seem Loomis pass up need for BPA before. I have a feeling though that in round 3 there should be a few DT's that are probably also BPA. And I'd imagine Spags has a list of journeyman DT's that can fill out a rotation just fine if we need it. I agree and I do also think that some DTs will be the BPA at some point in the draft when the Saints are picking.

04-22-2012, 01:40 PM	#95
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	Originally Posted by CheramieIII Just going on our track record and all of these players would be BPA. Like Danno said I think we'll find an undrafted guy or 2 or a unsigned fa to fill the void cheap rotational players are easy to find OK, fair enough, but I do believe that some DTs will be the BPA when the Saints are picking and I have to believe that the need for a quality DT to develop under Spags will be greater than for another WR. With this year's DT class it would make much more sense to pick a young DT who can make the transition to being a starter in a fairly short period of time seeing as Ellis is entering his last year under contract and all other DTs except for Bunkley are still very unproven and unexperienced. I think it's much easier to find a quality UDFA WR if that is in fact what they are looking for, and like it has been said before - having a strong interior D-line will have a positive trickle down effect on the DBs.
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04-23-2012, 10:31 PM	#97
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Originally Posted by jeanpierre Wolfe has been the only DT that I like that is getting any noise right now and he's moving up the charts out of the Saints picking range... Billy Winn DE/DT from Boise State I have seen mentioned in a few mock drafts for us. He should be available in the 3rd when we pick. He looks to have a lot of potential! Billy Winn\|Boise State,DE:*2012 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

04-24-2012, 11:28 AM	#98
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Billy Winn DE/DT from Boise State I have seen mentioned in a few mock drafts for us. He should be available in the 3rd when we pick. He looks to have a lot of potential! Billy Winn\|Boise State,DE:*2012 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile So, another hybrid DE/DT. He seems promising on paper and I do think that the versatility these hybrids like Wolfe and Winn have will be a plus in Spags' schemes, because he likes to move those front 4 guys around a lot.

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04-22-2012, 09:25 AM	#93
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,457 Blog Entries: 3	Just going on our track record and all of these players would be BPA. Like Danno said I think we'll find an undrafted guy or 2 or a unsigned fa to fill the void cheap rotational players are easy to find

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lsutigerfan 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: born And raised in NOLA, now live in Los Angeles Posts: 811	Would love to see Derek Wolfe, but I doubt it. Give me either. Derek Wolfe DT-Cinncinati Josh Chapman DT-Alabama Travis Lewis LB-Oklahoma

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