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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; The more I read the more I think Derrick Strait might be the CB for us. He's more prepared to start right away than any of the other big-3. Almost every scout says he will be a fantastic corner in ...

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Old 03-30-2004, 12:44 PM   #1
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Thoughts on Strait at 18

The more I read the more I think Derrick Strait might be the CB for us. He's more prepared to start right away than any of the other big-3. Almost every scout says he will be a fantastic corner in the league. Maybe not the next Deion, but a very solid player for many years to come. And is there really a huge difference in picking him at 18 as opposed to where he's projected, at around 20-25. So we pick him 2-7 spots earlier, so what. I think I may change my big-3 to big-4 CB's.

Here are a couple scouting reports, notice how they differ drastically...


Strengths: Good size...Very aggressive...Will come up and play the run...Good athlete...Very good speed...Good tackler...A playmaker with a nose for the ball...Good athlete...Experienced.

Weaknesses: Will gamble and get burnt at times...Technique can be refined...Will have mental lapses at times.

Notes: Will remind you of Antoine Windfield...Could have possibly been a first day pick in 2003 but returned to Oklahoma for his senior season... A better prospect than his former teammate Andre Woolfolk who was a first rounder of the Tennessee Titans last year.


Derrick Strait CB Oklahoma


Strengths
Plays bigger than listed. He is a good tackler, has good speed and for his size, his arms are long. This has come in handy against the big receivers. He is smart and knows how to use the sideline to his advantage. Derrick uses very good technique. He likes to challenge the bigger receivers for the ball and by doing this, gets away with being physical without getting flagged for it. Like I said, he is very smart, which is the strongest part of his game.

Needs to Improve
Derrick has good speed but does lack quickness. The smaller, faster receivers give him the most problems. He is at his best against the taller wide receivers with long strides. Against the fast receivers he loses technique and gets burned really fast. He is slow in his hip flip, which is what causes him to get beat by the small quick/fast receivers. Another
problem that I notice with Derrick is that he has a problem forgetting. He worries the minute he gets beat and he starts to lose confidence. If receivers get a sniff of this in the NFL, they will eat him alive.

Bottom Line
Derrick should have no problems in the NFL. He is very good against the bigger wide receivers and when the smaller receivers are on the field you can bring him inside in the nickel and dime schemes because he is a good tackler with good size. He will get you some picks when he is used this way. Against the bigger possession receivers he might very well shut them down and should limit the ‘run after the catch’ yards because of his size and tackling abilities. If he is used this way, he will gain confidence and not lose confidence after making a mistake. If you are a scout or coach that thinks you are going to put Derrick man for man on Laverneous Coles or Santana Moss or Pete Warrick and expect him to shut them down, I don't think it is going to happen. Derrick will not have the
quickness to stay with that style of receiver. I think he will always have a problem with the receivers who are quick in and out of their breaks. That does not mean that Derrick cannot be successful -- it just means do not expect him to be superman. He is rated high right now, but before it is all said and done he should go in the latter part of the first round. He will be a solid corner and should have a good career in the NFL. The good thing about Derrick is that if he is not as good as he is projected at the corner position, he can be flipped to a safety position because he is a good tackler. He would make an impact for a team at the free safety position, which makes Derrick a very safe pick. He is what I consider a two-fer -- a two position DB.
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Old 03-30-2004, 12:52 PM   #2
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Yeah, obviously he is a better prospect than Woolfork...because Woolfork was drafted at the end of the 1st round, was very very raw, and had an awful rookie season.

Drafting Strait at 18 would be a big mistake. You could probably get him between 25-30. I don\'t like the guy anyway, he got tourched at the senior bowl.
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Old 03-30-2004, 01:31 PM   #3
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Strait would be too much of a reach at 18. The guy has potential to be a solid corner in the NFL but he most likely will not be an elite corner to due his lack of size and his tendencies to have lapses on the field. He would be a steal for the Saints in the second round but he is not the kind of guy you would want to build your secondary around. Strait will never be more than an average number 2 corner. Hall, Gamble, and Robinson are heads and shoulders above Strait and really the only guys worthy of being picked at 18.

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Old 03-30-2004, 02:19 PM   #4
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Not very good value at the 18th pick... only way I see us getting him is in the second or trading down.
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Old 03-30-2004, 02:22 PM   #5
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I HATE to be \"that guy\" again, but there was only 1 play which I saw him get beat. In fact, on that play, Devery caught a 4 yd. curl and Strait just
over-played the ball. Other than that, I saw him on about every route.
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Old 03-30-2004, 04:45 PM   #6
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I don\'t have a problem with Strait at the 18th pick. We need a corner that can play the dime or nickle immediately and possibly be a starter by mid to late season. Are any of the corners in this year\'s draft sure things? Neither we nor the draft gurus can seem to agree.

If we use our picks wisely, we will land an eventual starter at LB in the second round. For that reason, I would rather see us take whichever corner is available at 18 rather than use one of our twos to move up.

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Old 03-30-2004, 05:42 PM   #7
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A lot of mock drafts have us taking Will Poole at 18, and I definitely would rather have Strait than Poole. So I wouldn\'t be upset if we took Strait at 18.

That said, I am a gambling man, and if theres a chance we could trade down and still take him, I\'d want the Saints to try that.
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Old 03-30-2004, 07:43 PM   #8
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Well if it comes to the 18th pick and Hall, Gamble and Robinson are gone.....then trade down or take a linebacker....no need to reach for Poole or Strait. If Vilma and Williams are gone too, then we take a wide receiver.
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Old 03-31-2004, 03:57 PM   #9
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I like Strait personally. rAge won\'t be happy unless you\'re saying the name Vilma, so disregard his disapproval.

As long as it is a cb or lb, I\'m generally happy. Anything else and I might pull something throwing my remote.
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Old 03-31-2004, 04:34 PM   #10
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I like Strait personally. rAge won\'t be happy unless you\'re saying the name Vilma, so disregard his disapproval.

As long as it is a cb or lb, I\'m generally happy. Anything else and I might pull something throwing my remote.
You\'re right, I won\'t be happy if we pass on Vilma.

This is like going back to the 96 draft and taking Walt Harris instead of Ray Lewis. While none of the corners may suck as bad as he did, you still get the point.
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