Akiem Hicks

hagan714 · 02-26-2012, 08:22 PM

he looks to be a nice project player and worth a pick. DT that big and fast are hard to find.

CharityMike · 02-26-2012, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

he looks to be a nice project player and worth a pick. DT that big and fast are hard to find.

I remember hearing something along these lines before we drafted Ellis.

FinSaint · 02-26-2012, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

I remember hearing something along these lines before we drafted Ellis.

Well, Ellis is listed at 6-1 and 307 lbs, while Hicks is listed at 6-6 and 320 lbs, so there's quite a difference in size, and more than likely in mobility as well, between the two.

He would be a project, but perhaps Spags would be the right guy to nurture his mental side to the same level his physique already is..?

CharityMike · 02-26-2012, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Well, Ellis is listed at 6-1 and 307 lbs, while Hicks is listed at 6-6 and 320 lbs, so there's quite a difference in size, and more than likely in mobility as well, between the two.

He would be a project, but perhaps Spags would be the right guy to nurture his mental side to the same level his physique already is..?

Maybe so. I think I am just so gun shy in regards to DT we get. They rarely pan out.

FinSaint · 02-27-2012, 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Maybe so. I think I am just so gun shy in regards to DT we get. They rarely pan out.

True, but they desperately need a DT or two, who can really make a difference, and the draft is the cheapest way to get those game changing players.

Also, there's the added benefit of teaching the guy the particular system the Saints/Spags uses as their first pro system, and not having to deal with the stuff they've been taught by other DCs in the past.

I think Spags can make a huge difference in this aspect of player development, or should I say, I hope he can make a huge difference.

Supertek · 02-27-2012, 11:29 AM

Anything that would be an improvement other than play with what we have mentality. Combo of size and speed looks good but could he be that good against the talent in the S.E.C. not so sure. Looks like he may be worth a chance though.

jcp026 · 02-27-2012, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

I remember hearing something along these lines before we drafted Ellis.

Besides the size, another big difference is the fact that we'll end up drafting Hicks in the 4th, 5th, or 6th rounds and we took Ellis in the 1st.

SloMotion · 02-28-2012, 07:33 AM

Burfict sure laid an egg at the Combine ... wouldn't do the bench press and 300lb+ offensive linemen were beating his 40-time of 5.1 or something. Add this to his propensity for personal fouls and he's quite the draft choice ... not.

02-26-2012, 09:18 PM	#12
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Originally Posted by hagan714 he looks to be a nice project player and worth a pick. DT that big and fast are hard to find. I remember hearing something along these lines before we drafted Ellis.

02-26-2012, 09:50 PM	#13
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	Originally Posted by CharityMike I remember hearing something along these lines before we drafted Ellis. Well, Ellis is listed at 6-1 and 307 lbs, while Hicks is listed at 6-6 and 320 lbs, so there's quite a difference in size, and more than likely in mobility as well, between the two. He would be a project, but perhaps Spags would be the right guy to nurture his mental side to the same level his physique already is..?

02-26-2012, 10:55 PM	#14
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Originally Posted by FinSaint Well, Ellis is listed at 6-1 and 307 lbs, while Hicks is listed at 6-6 and 320 lbs, so there's quite a difference in size, and more than likely in mobility as well, between the two. He would be a project, but perhaps Spags would be the right guy to nurture his mental side to the same level his physique already is..? Maybe so. I think I am just so gun shy in regards to DT we get. They rarely pan out.

02-27-2012, 04:24 AM	#15
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	Originally Posted by CharityMike Maybe so. I think I am just so gun shy in regards to DT we get. They rarely pan out. True, but they desperately need a DT or two, who can really make a difference, and the draft is the cheapest way to get those game changing players. Also, there's the added benefit of teaching the guy the particular system the Saints/Spags uses as their first pro system, and not having to deal with the stuff they've been taught by other DCs in the past. I think Spags can make a huge difference in this aspect of player development, or should I say, I hope he can make a huge difference.

02-27-2012, 11:39 AM	#17
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 950	Originally Posted by CharityMike I remember hearing something along these lines before we drafted Ellis. Besides the size, another big difference is the fact that we'll end up drafting Hicks in the 4th, 5th, or 6th rounds and we took Ellis in the 1st. FinSaint likes this.
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02-26-2012, 08:22 PM	#11
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	he looks to be a nice project player and worth a pick. DT that big and fast are hard to find.

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02-27-2012, 11:29 AM	#16
Supertek 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Harvey La. Posts: 611	Anything that would be an improvement other than play with what we have mentality. Combo of size and speed looks good but could he be that good against the talent in the S.E.C. not so sure. Looks like he may be worth a chance though.

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SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Burfict sure laid an egg at the Combine ... wouldn't do the bench press and 300lb+ offensive linemen were beating his 40-time of 5.1 or something. Add this to his propensity for personal fouls and he's quite the draft choice ... not. FinSaint likes this.

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