Will Smith & Jonathan Vilma could potentially be released

FinSaint · 02-28-2012, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

I could see moving Jenkins to SS

Absolutely, lets do it! He did always seem like the best tackler in the secondary.

darstep · 02-29-2012, 01:09 PM

Vilma has increasingly been nursing the naggs that come with age and his leverage looks to be waning. I don't think that gets better, but only worse. Smith just looked average this past season - not at all like 8 million.
I think the defense will look much different than it did last season.
A front four overhaul would do wonders for our linebacker corp and DB's.
Maybe new leadership is the order of the day.
Maybe not.
Our new DC will have to make some decisions and this is not his first rodeo.
Some people will be gone, but that's the game.
Hopefully the replacements get the job done.
Once again, D will be key.

Danno · 02-29-2012, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Absolutely, lets do it! He did always seem like the best tackler in the secondary.

Move him to a positin he's never played? And to a position currently manned by a 2 time pro-bowler?

C'mon Fin...Really?

BTW: He's hardly the best tackler in our secondary.

RaginCajun83 · 02-29-2012, 02:25 PM

I'm all for them getting rid of Smith, now Vilma let's see if he would restructure and if not then cut him too. This might be the only way to keep the offense together so I'm all for it

BGWhoDat · 02-29-2012, 03:19 PM

Reports say Vilma and Spagnuolo are getting along great. Don't see him going anywhere even if he don't restructure based off that.

FinSaint · 02-29-2012, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Move him to a positin he's never played? And to a position currently manned by a 2 time pro-bowler?

C'mon Fin...Really?

BTW: He's hardly the best tackler in our secondary.

I'm actually kind of hurt you thought I was being serious.

He's hardly the best tackler in our secondary

My point exactly.

Danno · 02-29-2012, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by BGWhoDat

Reports say Vilma and Spagnuolo are getting along great. Don't see him going anywhere even if he don't restructure based off that.

I see standing pat with most of the players we have, with a few free-agents Spags prefers sprinkled in.

After a season of evaluation, and some breathing room under the cap, I see big changes coming in 2013.

Danno · 02-29-2012, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I'm actually kind of hurt you thought I was being serious.

My point exactly.

DOH!!!

iceshack149 · 02-29-2012, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

I think we're going to see some surprises this offseason and a lot more players replaced than what we're thinking right now. As for myself, I could see moving Jenkins to SS, Quddus to FS, trading Harper and drafting another S. I could also see us trading Will Smith as he is under contract as well as trading Vilma if either or both refuse to re-negotiate. I could also see Sed Ellis replaced as well as shanle, Cassillias and Dunbar. I think there's gonna be a lot of shake up to come.

The Saints only netted what appears to be a seventh round pick for Bush. I doubt Vilma and Smith have much value.

Why has Harper become the new Bush? I don't understand the Harper hate.

winmill1 · 02-29-2012, 03:37 PM

Greer is best tackler in secondary. No competition. Most underrated CB in the game.

02-28-2012, 07:19 PM	#11
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	Originally Posted by Marlboro Man I could see moving Jenkins to SS Absolutely, lets do it! He did always seem like the best tackler in the secondary.

02-29-2012, 01:09 PM	#12
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Vilma has increasingly been nursing the naggs that come with age and his leverage looks to be waning. I don't think that gets better, but only worse. Smith just looked average this past season - not at all like 8 million. I think the defense will look much different than it did last season. A front four overhaul would do wonders for our linebacker corp and DB's. Maybe new leadership is the order of the day. Maybe not. Our new DC will have to make some decisions and this is not his first rodeo. Some people will be gone, but that's the game. Hopefully the replacements get the job done. Once again, D will be key.
	SaintSince67

02-29-2012, 01:53 PM	#13
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Originally Posted by FinSaint Absolutely, lets do it! He did always seem like the best tackler in the secondary. Move him to a positin he's never played? And to a position currently manned by a 2 time pro-bowler? C'mon Fin...Really? BTW: He's hardly the best tackler in our secondary. Ashley, darstep and ChrisXVI like this.

02-29-2012, 03:21 PM	#16
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	Originally Posted by Danno Move him to a positin he's never played? And to a position currently manned by a 2 time pro-bowler? C'mon Fin...Really? BTW: He's hardly the best tackler in our secondary. I'm actually kind of hurt you thought I was being serious. He's hardly the best tackler in our secondary My point exactly. ScottF likes this.

02-29-2012, 03:22 PM	#17
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Originally Posted by BGWhoDat Reports say Vilma and Spagnuolo are getting along great. Don't see him going anywhere even if he don't restructure based off that. I see standing pat with most of the players we have, with a few free-agents Spags prefers sprinkled in. After a season of evaluation, and some breathing room under the cap, I see big changes coming in 2013. BGWhoDat likes this.

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02-29-2012, 02:25 PM	#14
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	I'm all for them getting rid of Smith, now Vilma let's see if he would restructure and if not then cut him too. This might be the only way to keep the offense together so I'm all for it

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BGWhoDat Who Dat Writer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 241	Reports say Vilma and Spagnuolo are getting along great. Don't see him going anywhere even if he don't restructure based off that.

02-29-2012, 03:23 PM	#18
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Originally Posted by FinSaint I'm actually kind of hurt you thought I was being serious. My point exactly. DOH!!! FinSaint likes this.

02-29-2012, 03:31 PM	#19
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,085 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by Marlboro Man I think we're going to see some surprises this offseason and a lot more players replaced than what we're thinking right now. As for myself, I could see moving Jenkins to SS, Quddus to FS, trading Harper and drafting another S. I could also see us trading Will Smith as he is under contract as well as trading Vilma if either or both refuse to re-negotiate. I could also see Sed Ellis replaced as well as shanle, Cassillias and Dunbar. I think there's gonna be a lot of shake up to come. The Saints only netted what appears to be a seventh round pick for Bush. I doubt Vilma and Smith have much value. Why has Harper become the new Bush? I don't understand the Harper hate. FinSaint likes this.

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