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WhoDat!656 02-29-2012 01:11 PM

Carl Nicks getting anxious
 
“4 years of busting my ass, no hold outs,no off the field distractions, a Super Bowl… I ain’t never forget but u might of!” Nicks said.

Carl Nicks

Luda34 02-29-2012 01:19 PM

Oh oh that don't sound good

Danno 02-29-2012 01:50 PM

What a moron. I'd trade his ass just for that stupidity spewing out of his enormous pie hole.

Carl... STFU!!!

papz 02-29-2012 02:02 PM

That's why it's called twitter. Teams should put clauses in players contract fining them for every stupid comment that's made. Give me a 5% cut and I'd be a millionaire.

Don't get your panties in a wad Carl... this is how the off season and free agency works around this time. Do you see free agents flying off the wire right now? There's a due process... take a chill pill and enjoy a donut while you still can.

RaginCajun83 02-29-2012 02:19 PM

All these guys (media, agents, players) need to stfu, it's a process that happens every year at this time.... by now everyone should know how it works

Danno 02-29-2012 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 381126)
All these guys (media, agents, players) need to stfu, it's a process that happens every year at this time.... by now everyone should know how it works

And yet soooooo many people still don't.

Off topic sort of... I'd love to play poker with Carl Nicks.

papz 02-29-2012 02:30 PM

Free agent LG Carl Nicks wrote on Twitter Wednesday that he does not want the Saints to franchise tag him.

"I don't want to be franchised!!!" he wrote. While no details were tweeted, it begs the question of whether a standout might ensue should the Saints tag Nicks. Nicks has gone on record saying he wants to be the NFL's highest paid guard.

Source: Carl Nicks on Twitter

Danno 02-29-2012 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papz (Post 381137)
Free agent LG Carl Nicks wrote on Twitter Wednesday that he does not want the Saints to franchise tag him.

"I don't want to be franchised!!!" he wrote. While no details were tweeted, it begs the question of whether a standout might ensue should the Saints tag Nicks. Nicks has gone on record saying he wants to be the NFL's highest paid guard.

Source: Carl Nicks on Twitter

Franchise him, ASAP!!!!

darstep 02-29-2012 02:37 PM

That money is burning his pocket...it's getting hot!
He doesn't even know where it's coming from...but it's getting hot.
When he takes it out of his pocket, more shows up, and it's hotter.
He will never see this many zeros again when he signs to play the game.
Brees and Nicks are ranked 1 and 2 respectively among available FAs.
It's not too far fetched to think that someone may overpay Nicks after we overpay Brees.

papz 02-29-2012 02:37 PM

Might as well... it's what we're going to do anyways.

Beastmode 02-29-2012 02:41 PM

Smartest thing he can do; start the packing process because he won't be a Saint next season.

iceshack149 02-29-2012 02:51 PM

Quote:

When one fan suggested Nicks was likely to leave despite the Saints giving him his opportunity, Nicks responded: “4 years of busting my ass, no hold outs,no off the field distractions, a Super Bowl… I ain’t never forget but u might of!” Nicks said.
Dumb remark, but it should be pointed out that Nicks was responding to someone questioning his character.

I'm new to twitter. The thing that truly surprises me is the way some "educated" people converse.

SapperSaint 02-29-2012 02:59 PM

Dear Carl,

As a Saints fan, I am well aware of the good things you have done. No holdouts, no off field trouble, helping us win our first SuperBowl, ect. I am very proud of you for these things. You are a great player for the Saints.

However... Currently you demanding, hold the organization hostage, beligerant, and down right egotistical. Are you deserving of a "Big Payday"? In my opinion; yes you are. Will you get a "Big Payday"? Yes you will. either one from the Saints or maybe possibly the Rams.

I understand wanting to get paid for what you are worth. I really do. But not at the expense of losing Drew Brees. As a fan, all I ask of you, is to sit back, relax and enjoy the next 5 days. One way or another, you are going to get a big contract. Even if it takes til next year. So my advice is to just calm down, quit talking all the "Crap" and do what we do. Enjoy the "Offseason".

Signed,
Sapper

BGWhoDat 02-29-2012 03:14 PM

I drilled him a new one on Twitter for being disrespectful to the Saints organization by taking his feelings about the situation to Twitter. Where are players agents at now-a-days?

Drew Brees should teach him a thing or two about how to talk to the media when things like this is going on. It's one thing for a single statement, but to repeatedly blow up the media with how you don't want to be tagged or you're unhappy with the situation is unprofessional.

He says he wants to stay with the Saints, yet he complains about being tagged, which gives them more time to work on a deal for him. Doesn't make any sense.

If it's about the money to him and he thinks he should be a priority over Brees, he can go to Dallas. I'll buy him a plane ticket.

Danno 02-29-2012 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SapperSaint (Post 381145)
Dear Carl,

As a Saints fan, I am well aware of the good things you have done. No holdouts, no off field trouble, helping us win our first SuperBowl, ect. I am very proud of you for these things. You are a great player for the Saints.

However... Currently you demanding, hold the organization hostage, beligerant, and down right egotistical. Are you deserving of a "Big Payday"? In my opinion; yes you are. Will you get a "Big Payday"? Yes you will. either one from the Saints or maybe possibly the Rams.

I understand wanting to get paid for what you are worth. I really do. But not at the expense of losing Drew Brees. As a fan, all I ask of you, is to sit back, relax and enjoy the next 5 days. One way or another, you are going to get a big contract. Even if it takes til next year. So my advice is to just calm down, quit talking all the "Crap" and do what we do. Enjoy the "Offseason".

Signed,
Sapper

Translation... "Carl... STFU, be patient, and you'll be rewarded appropriately"

FinSaint 02-29-2012 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 381112)
“4 years of busting my ass, no hold outs,no off the field distractions, a Super Bowl… I ain’t never forget but u might of!” Nicks said.

Carl Nicks


Funny, I seem to remember him missing some practice time this past off-season, because he took his sweet time signing the tender offered by the Saints - I'd consider that a type of a hold out.

Danno 02-29-2012 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 381161)
Funny, I seem to remember him missing some practice time this past off-season, because he took his sweet time signing the tender offered by the Saints - I'd consider that a type of a hold out.

Not to mention getting his arse benched by Payton last pre-season for slacking.

FinSaint 02-29-2012 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 381162)
Not to mention getting his arse benched by Payton last pre-season for slacking.


Not to mention the blow out he had with coach Kromer during the St. Louis game, but I guess that would technically be considered an on the field distraction.

Rugby Saint II 03-01-2012 12:40 PM

Uhhhhmmmm...........they ain't seen anxious until they look my way! :ohno:

Mardigras9 03-01-2012 12:46 PM

He is really good, no doubt, but not irreplaceable. Colston would be a bigger loss, he is a playmaker.

FinSaint 03-01-2012 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mardigras9 (Post 381386)
He is really good, no doubt, but not irreplaceable. Colston would be a bigger loss, he is a playmaker.


I disagree, good WRs are a dime a dozen, but truly good guard are a rare commodity, and that is why Nicks would fetch a bigger contract on the open market than Colston.

Nicks is a bigger playmaker in my opinion - in pass protection and run blocking.

BGWhoDat 03-01-2012 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 381397)
I disagree, good WRs are a dime a dozen, but truly good guard are a rare commodity, and that is why Nicks would fetch a bigger contract on the open market than Colston.

Nicks is a bigger playmaker in my opinion - in pass protection and run blocking.

I'm a firm believer, we can lose Nicks and keep Meachem and Colston and be Super Bowl contenders with a backup taking over.

If we lose Meachem and Colston and keep Nicks, we won't make the playoffs.

Nicks is worth it and plays a huge part of the offense and Brees success, sure. If I was choosing, I'd go WRs over G in a second.

darstep 03-01-2012 03:00 PM

Nicks WOULD NOT be a probowler if the Saints were 8-8, or if Brees only had 3500 yds.
Nicks WOULD NOT have been a probowler in Cleveland, or Seattle, or St. Louis,
or a host of other mid-line/lower tier offenses. Our success has given him spotlight
and keeps him on the ESPN highlight reel holding his block for 2.3 seconds as
Brees gets rid of the ball. I believe most of these guys fade away when they
leave for the money. Not that they aren't any good, but they knid of need
the rest of what we've got going to help them maintain their elite status.
I'm pretty confident that we could plug another big guy in at guard, and he doesn't
have to be great, and still have success with the diversity Payton schemes offer.
I'm pretty confident that there are 2-3 other Colston-esk type guys that would
gladly step in the gap he leaves in order to snag some Brees TD's.
These negotiations are business. Football for them is a business.
It makes it kind of sweet when you love it.

FinSaint 03-01-2012 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darstep (Post 381423)
Nicks WOULD NOT be a probowler if the Saints were 8-8, or if Brees only had 3500 yds.
Nicks WOULD NOT have been a probowler in Cleveland, or Seattle, or St. Louis,
or a host of other mid-line/lower tier offenses. Our success has given him spotlight
and keeps him on the ESPN highlight reel holding his block for 2.3 seconds as
Brees gets rid of the ball. I believe most of these guys fade away when they
leave for the money. Not that they aren't any good, but they knid of need
the rest of what we've got going to help them maintain their elite status.
I'm pretty confident that we could plug another big guy in at guard, and he doesn't
have to be great, and still have success with the diversity Payton schemes offer.
I'm pretty confident that there are 2-3 other Colston-esk type guys that would
gladly step in the gap he leaves in order to snag some Brees TD's.
These negotiations are business. Football for them is a business.
It makes it kind of sweet when you love it.


Yeah, we really saw how Goodwin sucked after he left the Saints!

I think you're giving too little credit to the Saints' system of picking up guys who have raw talent and grooming them to be pro-bowlers - if Nicks goes, we'll see a huge drop off in Bushrod's performances and in the center's as well, who ever he might be in that situation.

Haven't you seen Nicks' mobility in getting after the blocks in run plays?

darstep 03-01-2012 03:54 PM

I have seen Nicks get after it, and it's a beautiful thing.
But there is an entire Sr. class along with a host of 3yr vets that are just
salivating over the idea of stepping into the nest that Nicks built, and prove
that they can do that job too. The rest of our cast just makes it that much
easier for them to actually do it.

FinSaint 03-01-2012 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darstep (Post 381448)
I have seen Nicks get after it, and it's a beautiful thing.
But there is an entire Sr. class along with a host of 3yr vets that are just
salivating over the idea of stepping into the nest that Nicks built, and prove
that they can do that job too. The rest of our cast just makes it that much
easier for them to actually do it.


Yeah, I'm in no way saying that Nicks isn't replaceable, I was only responding to the notion that Colston and Meachem would be more important to keep around than him.

I think Brees is an unique talent in that he can create chemistry with almost any receiver in a fairly short time span, but we all saw how long it took for the O-line to get their act together last season after losing Goodwin and Stinchcomb in the off-season - it cost the Saints some games, which would've come handy right about the time they had to travel to SF to play the divisional round.

Danno 03-01-2012 04:04 PM

Nicks is the best OG in the entire league. It wouldn't matter whatteam he played for.

He'd also be an elite RT if a team decided to move him there.

ChrisXVI 03-01-2012 07:21 PM

To say that Nicks could be replaced easier than Colston is an absolute joke. Most teams rely on the left tackle to protect the QB... but not the Saints. We rely on Carl Nicks. Because of Nicks and Evans, Drew can step up into the pocket and make any wide receiver look good with all of the time he has to throw the ball. People often talk about "system quarterbacks" but if there were system wide receivers then Colston would be the epitome of it.

papz 03-01-2012 09:07 PM

Team will average 30 ppg regardless to whether or not either will be back. It may make it more stressful, but we'll continue pumping out points. Both replaceable... not that I want either replaced.

Both will be back.

ChrisXVI 03-01-2012 09:13 PM

I'm hoping both will be back... God knows the next 2 weeks can't get here soon enough so we can see what contracts get signed and who becomes a free agent. I feel like the Saints should have offered fans Paxil for this off-season lol.

Marlboro Man 03-02-2012 12:20 AM

Well, before this Brees fiasco, I would have said to Nicks that he just needs to relax and let Loomis do his thing. He will be taken care of. However, if you look at things from a slightly different angle, we could move Strief to LG and move Brown in to RT and or draft an OT/OG as well and keep on keepin on. Strief actually played some G for us a while back when someone was injured and he's definitely big enough to handle it, maybe even better than RT. I don't think we'd be in too bad a shape if that were to happen and it just may. The thing that's coming to light is that we squandered two opportunities to win another Super Bowl these last two years because of poor defense and it may well have cost us our window.


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