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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Outside of the lockout this has been the most unnerving year for me as a fan Since Mickey Loomis and gang arrived on the scene. The question is do you have as much faith in them making the right decisions ...

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Old 02-29-2012, 01:43 PM   #1
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Still confident in the FO?

Outside of the lockout this has been the most unnerving year for me as a fan Since Mickey Loomis and gang arrived on the scene.

The question is do you have as much faith in them making the right decisions as you have in years past? Have they done anything this year that makes you scratch your head more than you usually do? We all know how secretive they are.
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Old 02-29-2012, 01:47 PM   #2
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Have they done anything this year that makes you scratch your head more than you usually do?

Nope, every year people panic because transactions aren't done on their time schedule.

Mickey has never given me any reason to doubt their capabilities. This year is no different.

In fact, I'd have been disappointed if a Brees/Nicks/Colston deal was already done.

Its a business and 99% of all fans are on the players side. Thats a recipe for disaster.
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Old 02-29-2012, 02:22 PM   #3
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The only times I've been disappointed in their work during the recent years was probably the money they gave to certain players in their new contract - Smith, Evans, and Harper - but not the players themselves. Especially, by giving Evans the contract he got, it gave a precedent for Nicks to also demand a lot of money.

But it might be that those were the best contracts they were able to get done at the given time, so it could've also been worse I guess.

The current situation hasn't unnerved me at all.
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Old 02-29-2012, 02:26 PM   #4
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BREES TRADED TO MIAMI!
In a surprise move spearheaded by Atlanta head coach Mike Smith, Drew Brees was traded to the Miami Dolphins. Details of the trade include Miami obtaining the second draft choice from the St. Louis Rams which would then go to the Saints, as well as their first round draft choice from 2013. They also offered New Orleans their 2014 and 2015 first round picks if the Saints would take Henne. Apparently New Orleans refused that portion of the offer. To sweeten the pot the Atlanta Falcons, the Carolina Panthers and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are also including their 2012 first round draft picks as well. Mike Smith was quoted as saying, “ Our offense can’t beat them, our defense can’t beat them so we thought we’d see if maybe our front office could.

I still do as long as Loomis keeps turning down Henne. Ha ha, happy Leap Day y'all!
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Old 02-29-2012, 02:36 PM   #5
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What people here need to realize is that there are two parties involved in these negotiations, not just the front office. The players' agent is just as key. One thing to consider is that Brees and Nicks are both represented by the same agency. They know that Brees isn't going anywhere and that a long term deal will be made with the Saints for his services whether he initially gets tagged or not. They also know that it would be far less likely that Nicks would get a long term deal this year if he gets the tag. Therefore, it is to their advantage to force the Saints to use the tag on Brees, thus forcing the Saints to either give in to their demands on a deal with Nicks or letting him go to the open market.

My thoughts are that Creative Artists Agency (CAA), Brees' and Nicks' representatives, have highballed the Saints with a deal that they cannot make to force their hand with the franchise tag.

I put zero blame on Loomis here. Welcome to the 21st century and greedy agents.
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Old 02-29-2012, 03:22 PM   #6
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"I put zero blame on Loomis here. Welcome to the 21st century and greedy agents."
And players. I will never side with a player when it comes to money.
None of these players are worth the money they make. 80% of them would be pushing drugs or in jail if was not for football. 90% will be dead broke after football.
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Old 02-29-2012, 03:59 PM   #7
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"I put zero blame on Loomis here. Welcome to the 21st century and greedy agents."
And players. I will never side with a player when it comes to money.
None of these players are worth the money they make. 80% of them would be pushing drugs or in jail if was not for football. 90% will be dead broke after football.
I need disagree to a point here. Based upon the short period of time these players are viable the pay is usually warranted. Do not forget that the average player will earn over 90% of his lifetime income during a career that only lasts on average around three years. Top actors and other entertainers get paid far more than the highest paid NFL players and their viability can last many decades longer on average. Many corporate heads get paid more annually than the highest paid NFL players earn in their entire careers.

I feel the player earns whatever it is that he gets paid, but it is the agent that presses the issue to the extreme.
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Old 02-29-2012, 04:07 PM   #8
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I feel the player earns whatever it is that he gets paid, but it is the agent that presses the issue to the extreme.
Truer words never spoken.

This got me thinking...

Condon probably knows the Saints ideally would like to sign Brees then franchise either Nicks/Colston.

So the agent has the leverage in this case and only benefits by dragging it out.

With Condon repping both Brees and Nicks, I can see him wanting to pressure Loomis all the way up to the franchise deadline.
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Old 02-29-2012, 05:30 PM   #9
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im sure its mostly condons fault but at the same time, if i were loomis I would have gotten the deal done before brees' resume grew. He should have done this mid season before he had the best season a qb could ever have when they started this discussion. sloppy on loomis's fault. i cant see this ending the way we all want. brees' contract is a given...the other ones may end up walking
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Old 02-29-2012, 08:00 PM   #10
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We're up against the deadlines but let's wait to see what exactly happens. It's like people freaking out because we lose a preseason game!
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