The Gamblers . . .
 

Here is the message that no one has touched on in the Drew drama that is unfolding roght in front of us. For the beginning of the Saints football team we have had many coaches and "so-called" premier players. But we changed them out on a regular basis but to no avail. We could not reach the summit we call the Super Bowl much less respect in the NFL. So what is different? We got a decent manager named Loomis and then we got a good coach in Payton. Both of whom were by nature gamblers. They gambled on a potentially broken QB named Brees. They more than hit the lottery. With him came a SB but better than that we got respect. Teams do not look forward to Sunday with the Saints where before they relished it because it usually meant a notch in thier W column. Brees makes players around him better than they really are. He drives them to reach thier full potential both on offense and defense. If for some reason San Diego had kept Brees or if the Dolphins had picked him up when he was available I feel certain both Loomis and Payton would have been history in New Orleans by now. Give Drew the damn money Loomis you owe your job to him. We have tasted victory and we are not ready or willing to wallow in mediocrity again. Larry said it best "Git-R-Dun" and lets keep Nicks and Colston! We are not wanting to gamble with Brees' future again.

I have a feeling they do want to keep him a Saint. Why wouldn't they?

Quit wringing your hands like a bleeding-heart liberal.

The chance of the Saints not re-signing Brees would rank 2nd behind death by meteroite.

This deal will get done; as far as Nicks/Colston staying, they are going to have to decide if they want money or another Super Bowl ring.

If they leave, I hope they go to a team that the Saints beat the hell out of and a Saints player after the game tells them they F'ed up by leaving!

Maybe they're angling for P. Manning?! ;-)

One Manning in New Orleans was enough!

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long term contract means long term signing which takes forever, it will get done, i dont want to read all them 5 dollar words thats about the size of a grain of sand. thats why they managers and lawyers make the big bucks.

I don't think Brees wants to be anywhere else.
I think his stock goes down if he ends up in a cookie-cutter scheme.
There is NOWHERE else he can go where he can dink-and-dunk his way to 70% completions.
Peyton's offense makes all of our guys better.
Colston, Evans, Nicks and all the rest are just average anywhere else they would play.
And if someone else wants to overpay to prove me right then so be it.

some ballsy stuff there, darstep. I dont know if you're right or wrong,
but its interesting to hear.

Im a fan of all our players too, so personally, i hope we keep them. Of
course, I know that doesnt happen much, but I can hope.

I still feel like it is going to really hurt Benson to have to pay for what he is getting. He would be a fool not to do so but he is not going to give up that money easily. He is playing the percentages. How do you think Benson got rich anyway. I can tell you one thing that is was not from being the nice guy. That is why I suspect at least a 50/50 chance he will put the tag on Brees and Brees being the guy he is would I think at least accept that for now. So this is the gamble Benson is playing. Most everyone is pissed about this situation but Benson is showing his true colors. Anyone who thinks Benson is not the final decision maker in this are fooling themselves.

Under the new agreement, not only is there a cap, there is also a minimum.
Benson and all the owners have to spend about $107 million and change with
the cap at about $120 million and change. So that money is going to be
spent on players and how that get distributed is at the teams discretion.
That would give them $13 mil to play with between the high/low team salary range.
We have to field an entire team and not just a QB with no weapons or without protection.
I thought I read that we have about 20 million in cap space where other teams
have much more cash to bargain with. I'm already getting my mind right so when we
end up looking a whole lot different, I'm OK with it, especially if we are still
getting it done on the field.

You are right in a way, but wrong in another.

It is my understanding that it is Rita Benson nowadays, who is making most of the decisions from the owner's side, which is probably why the Saints are longer so stingy with the cash. She seems like a very intelligent business woman, who isn't afraid to spend money to make money - contrary to her car salesman father.

Not that I'm trying to steal your thunder or anything ... just if anyone else besides me is wondering exactly what the chances of 'death by meteorite' really are and to reassure everyone Brees will be resigned by your calculations ... :mrgreen:

"Astronomer Alan Harris has made that calculation. Allowing for the number of Earth-crossing asteroids — the kind that can hit us because their orbits around the Sun intersect ours — as well as how much damage they can do (which depends on their size), he calculated that any person’s lifetime odds of being killed by an asteroid impact are about 1 in 700,000."

Death by meteorite | Bad Astronomy | Discover Magazine

I like the spirit, but I think your portrayal of Loomis and Payton as "gamblers" is way off the mark. They didn't "gamble" on Brees, or get lucky: it was a cold calculation, and they liked what they saw in '06, otherwise they would have NEVER pulled the trigger on it. They saw the potential there. New Orleans was also very comfortable with the risk-reward, based on Brees' rehabilitation from the injury. So they had some kind of data or medical opinion on that. Bill Parcells has always been a big fan of Brees and advised his former assistant, Sean Payton, to take Brees if he had the chance. That's not really "gambling" in my book. Your mentor and hero tells you to do it, that's about as far away from risky gambling as you can get.

I say the same thing when people talk about Jimmy Graham -- he wasn't a surprise or a "miracle" or it wasn't "luck" when he was found by this teams' coaching staff; they just looked at him AND SAW THE POTENTIAL. It's not luck or magic or gambling, it's just really exceptional football smarts.

Everyone please calm down. Why would the Saints want to dump Drew? That sounds like crazy talk! To loose Drew would be like Katrina hitting again. Drew wants to stay & the organization wants him to stay. Drew understands it is not all about him & the offense and that the defense is just as important to the success of the "Team". Something will get worked out. This team is on the verge of winning another superbowl or 2. It's not even close to time to rebuild this team.

Keep the faith!

"The chance of the Saints not re-signing Brees would rank 2nd behind death by meteroite."

The sky is falling...........the sky is falling.:nuts: