Saints are working on re-structured deal with Will Smith

03-01-2012, 11:22 AM

Someone said it on another thread, Smith is good, but not 8 million good.
I wonder how long the FA list of hopefuls is.
Spagniola/Payton/Loomis are already numbering their chart if things fall through.
Every FA in the league knows we'll be in the hunt...AGAIN...and the prospect
of being a part of that is huge and may appeal to many able bodied vets who's
championship chances are slipping fast.

Supertek · 03-01-2012, 11:58 AM

Smith is a good guy but way off production wise. I don't think his ego will take it because if I was doing this deal it would be a little upfront money with everything on the rear end. If he does not iimprove then he gets cut. Personally I do not see him making much of a change unless we can really get an interior rush to draw attention from him. I do not see him as a dominate player for his position and the only way he can make an impact is by getting that help.

Luda34 · 03-01-2012, 11:59 AM

About time we get of our butts and start doing something.

Mardigras9 · 03-01-2012, 12:05 PM

The whole D front needs to look at restructuring with bonuses for production after last years lack of, prove you deserve your money.

FinSaint · 03-01-2012, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Supertek

Smith is a good guy but way off production wise. I don't think his ego will take it because if I was doing this deal it would be a little upfront money with everything on the rear end. If he does not iimprove then he gets cut. Personally I do not see him making much of a change unless we can really get an interior rush to draw attention from him. I do not see him as a dominate player for his position and the only way he can make an impact is by getting that help.

Well, please give me a name of a DE who can alone be dominate in this league?

Even Jarred Allen couldn't do much if it weren't for the push Kevin Williams provides from the interior and the alternate pass rush Robison was able to create from the other DE position.

No one player can do it alone, but Smith has the tools to be as productive as f.e. Abraham has been for the Failclowns that is if he can play as a part of a front 4 unit that is able to push O-lines around.

He has never struck me as a guy with a big ego, more so a quiet leader and a family man, who deservedly got payed his fair share on the heels of Charles Grants' huge mistake of a contract.

Donuts32 · 03-01-2012, 12:10 PM

This will help the Saints out big time by re-structuring his contract.

ScottF · 03-01-2012, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

who deservedly got payed his fair share on the heels of Charles Grants' huge mistake of a contract.

deja vu- Grant contract costs us money with Smith, as will Evans -> Nicks

Rugby Saint II · 03-01-2012, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by darstep

Someone said it on another thread, Smith is good, but not 8 million good.
I wonder how long the FA list of hopefuls is.
Spagniola/Payton/Loomis are already numbering their chart if things fall through.
Every FA in the league knows we'll be in the hunt...AGAIN...and the prospect
of being a part of that is huge and may appeal to many able bodied vets who's
championship chances are slipping fast.

Who would have ever believed this would be posted on a Saints web site?
We've come a long way since the bags.

Who Dat baby!

AsylumGuido · 03-01-2012, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

good for both sides- insurance for Smith, cap space for Saints

Anyone see the other Cole tweet? maybe we can kick the tires on Dan Morgan. Again

Kicking Morgan's tires could result in another concussion.

HouYat · 03-01-2012, 12:43 PM

This is sounding like a great Win-Win situation. Smith gets to stay & compete for another championship, and money gets freed up to attempt to get the big three FA's under contract. Anxiously awaiting follow-up reports this weekend.

03-01-2012, 11:22 AM	#11
Threaded by darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044 Rating: (0 votes - average) Someone said it on another thread, Smith is good, but not 8 million good. I wonder how long the FA list of hopefuls is. Spagniola/Payton/Loomis are already numbering their chart if things fall through. Every FA in the league knows we'll be in the hunt...AGAIN...and the prospect of being a part of that is huge and may appeal to many able bodied vets who's championship chances are slipping fast. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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03-01-2012, 12:07 PM	#15
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	Originally Posted by Supertek Smith is a good guy but way off production wise. I don't think his ego will take it because if I was doing this deal it would be a little upfront money with everything on the rear end. If he does not iimprove then he gets cut. Personally I do not see him making much of a change unless we can really get an interior rush to draw attention from him. I do not see him as a dominate player for his position and the only way he can make an impact is by getting that help. Well, please give me a name of a DE who can alone be dominate in this league? Even Jarred Allen couldn't do much if it weren't for the push Kevin Williams provides from the interior and the alternate pass rush Robison was able to create from the other DE position. No one player can do it alone, but Smith has the tools to be as productive as f.e. Abraham has been for the Failclowns that is if he can play as a part of a front 4 unit that is able to push O-lines around. He has never struck me as a guy with a big ego, more so a quiet leader and a family man, who deservedly got payed his fair share on the heels of Charles Grants' huge mistake of a contract. saintfan, iceshack149 and Crusader like this.
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03-01-2012, 12:23 PM	#17
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Originally Posted by FinSaint who deservedly got payed his fair share on the heels of Charles Grants' huge mistake of a contract. deja vu- Grant contract costs us money with Smith, as will Evans -> Nicks FinSaint likes this.

03-01-2012, 12:30 PM	#18
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,712	Originally Posted by darstep Someone said it on another thread, Smith is good, but not 8 million good. I wonder how long the FA list of hopefuls is. Spagniola/Payton/Loomis are already numbering their chart if things fall through. Every FA in the league knows we'll be in the hunt...AGAIN...and the prospect of being a part of that is huge and may appeal to many able bodied vets who's championship chances are slipping fast. Who would have ever believed this would be posted on a Saints web site? We've come a long way since the bags. Who Dat baby!

03-01-2012, 12:36 PM	#19
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,383	Originally Posted by ScottF good for both sides- insurance for Smith, cap space for Saints Anyone see the other Cole tweet? maybe we can kick the tires on Dan Morgan. Again Kicking Morgan's tires could result in another concussion. mikesaintfan and Rugby Saint II like this.

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Supertek 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Harvey La. Posts: 611	Smith is a good guy but way off production wise. I don't think his ego will take it because if I was doing this deal it would be a little upfront money with everything on the rear end. If he does not iimprove then he gets cut. Personally I do not see him making much of a change unless we can really get an interior rush to draw attention from him. I do not see him as a dominate player for his position and the only way he can make an impact is by getting that help.

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Luda34 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Tx Posts: 1,219	About time we get of our butts and start doing something.

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Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	The whole D front needs to look at restructuring with bonuses for production after last years lack of, prove you deserve your money.

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Donuts32 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Orleans,La Posts: 306	This will help the Saints out big time by re-structuring his contract.

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HouYat Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Humble, Texas Posts: 460	This is sounding like a great Win-Win situation. Smith gets to stay & compete for another championship, and money gets freed up to attempt to get the big three FA's under contract. Anxiously awaiting follow-up reports this weekend.

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