Bountygate possibly taint Saints Super Bowl win

03-04-2012, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I think that the rat might have been Alex Brown - he makes the most sense if compared to the timetable. He was cut late last pre-season, which would coincide with the resurfacing of the evidence.

Assuming all of the team had knowledge and not just defense, my guess is first rat was Mike Bell. He was unceremoniously dumped after the Super Bowl. But...since he was unestablished in the league, I could see him recanting when pressured.

The new allegations could have come from....Bush. He may not have liked the way he was sent packing, etc and he would have had enough status to get the league's attention again.

No proof...just a thought.

papz · 03-04-2012, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by OldMaid

I am going to take Bush out of it because he has money.

Don't. Remember he had no problem throwing us under the bus when they had that faking injury for a timeout investigation going. Money has nothing to do with this... it's not like they're getting paid to snitch.

Halo · 03-04-2012, 02:44 PM

You know if we're going to witch hunt, why not Sharper?
I think no one knows who it is. I think the league has zero obligation to tell the truth or give facts.

If the Saints are harshly penalized, there will be outcry and possibly law suits.

Spygate was basically CHEATING to win games... a slap on the wrist was given. If we get much more than that I believe the Saints organization will take the league and this commish to court.

The instigator was Gregg Williams. If the Saints suffer infractions, then GW should also suffer as the architect of the scheme.

Danno · 03-04-2012, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

If the Saints are harshly penalized, there will be outcry and possibly law suits.

I think the signing of a CBA prevents the team itself form doing so does it not?

SloMotion · 03-05-2012, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

The instigator was Gregg Williams. If the Saints suffer infractions, then GW should also suffer as the architect of the scheme.

If the league has proof that payments were made for injuring another player, then the payee(s) & payer(s) should be held accountable under full extent of NFL law. Punishing an organization should be secondary, unless they can prove the organization promoted it.

Greg Williams is at the center of all this. While a rewards system exists on every team as an incentive for players to perform, Williams took it to another level by promoting payments for the injury of other players (allegedly). That is the line that was crossed.

It is coming to light that he made this same poor, professional choice in basically every organization he has coached for. The Saints just have the misfortune of being one of them.

Nothing takes away from the SuperBowl win.

03-04-2012, 11:59 AM	#41
Threaded by vtiger72 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 185 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by FinSaint I think that the rat might have been Alex Brown - he makes the most sense if compared to the timetable. He was cut late last pre-season, which would coincide with the resurfacing of the evidence. Assuming all of the team had knowledge and not just defense, my guess is first rat was Mike Bell. He was unceremoniously dumped after the Super Bowl. But...since he was unestablished in the league, I could see him recanting when pressured. The new allegations could have come from....Bush. He may not have liked the way he was sent packing, etc and he would have had enough status to get the league's attention again. No proof...just a thought.
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03-04-2012, 12:04 PM	#42
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,681	Originally Posted by OldMaid I am going to take Bush out of it because he has money. Don't. Remember he had no problem throwing us under the bus when they had that faking injury for a timeout investigation going. Money has nothing to do with this... it's not like they're getting paid to snitch.

03-04-2012, 02:44 PM	#43
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,205 Blog Entries: 45	You know if we're going to witch hunt, why not Sharper? I think no one knows who it is. I think the league has zero obligation to tell the truth or give facts. If the Saints are harshly penalized, there will be outcry and possibly law suits. Spygate was basically CHEATING to win games... a slap on the wrist was given. If we get much more than that I believe the Saints organization will take the league and this commish to court. The instigator was Gregg Williams. If the Saints suffer infractions, then GW should also suffer as the architect of the scheme. SloMotion likes this.
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03-04-2012, 02:48 PM	#44
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Originally Posted by Halo If the Saints are harshly penalized, there will be outcry and possibly law suits. I think the signing of a CBA prevents the team itself form doing so does it not?

03-05-2012, 09:31 AM	#45
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Originally Posted by Halo The instigator was Gregg Williams. If the Saints suffer infractions, then GW should also suffer as the architect of the scheme. If the league has proof that payments were made for injuring another player, then the payee(s) & payer(s) should be held accountable under full extent of NFL law. Punishing an organization should be secondary, unless they can prove the organization promoted it. Greg Williams is at the center of all this. While a rewards system exists on every team as an incentive for players to perform, Williams took it to another level by promoting payments for the injury of other players (allegedly). That is the line that was crossed. It is coming to light that he made this same poor, professional choice in basically every organization he has coached for. The Saints just have the misfortune of being one of them. Nothing takes away from the SuperBowl win.

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