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C17-BING 03-02-2012 09:21 PM

Besides the Warner Hit ...
 
AND THAT WAS LEGAL!!! Tell me 1 other play in the last 3 years that has been "illegal" or cheap that wasn't fined by the NFL!?!? I think it was stupid to have a bounty, but I'd like to actually see what the impact was during an actual game.

I know many will point to the Warner hit (it was legal) and Favre during the NFC Championship game (and I'll concede on that one), but what else has there been that makes this such a huge deal? Other than the fact that it was uncovered?

Who the hell has N.O. hit that was an illegal hit? Who? Which players were carted off the field because of the Saints being "dirty?" I know there is someone out there that can answer this ... I've got to be honest though --- I don't remember any besides Warner and Favre ... Anyone?

jcp026 03-02-2012 09:40 PM

The high-low on Favre.

W. Kovacs 03-02-2012 10:34 PM

I just made this point in another thread. If you believe the hit on Favre was intentional, it seems like ONE illegal hit could cost us any shot at a championship for the foreseeable future.

I agree the idea of bounties is disgusting but if it doesn't seem to have resulted on dirty play on the field, why are we being completely demolished? Because we're not the Goddamn Patriots? Ridiculous...just ridiculous.

lynwood 03-02-2012 10:43 PM

I can care less about bounties unless it's something dirty that happens at the bottom of a pile....which stuff does happen there. Everything else is out in teh open and if it's dirty enough you get ejected,suspended, and fined. Ask that detroit player Suh. I think it's a stupid charge.

QBREES9 03-02-2012 10:44 PM

This is dumb just plain dumb

RaginCajun83 03-03-2012 12:18 AM

In the 3 years that GW was here, all I can think of is the high-low on Favre, I don't remember any other "illegal" hits

dizzle88 03-03-2012 06:57 AM

The high low on favre is the only one i can think of but if you watch that play, bobby McCray and remi ayodele do not see each other and are flying towards favre, both making the tackle at the same time just as favre released the ball. You can't tell me that was a planned hit, they both tried to make a play and had no idea the other one was also there.
Plus everyone including me was sick of this favre love fest, we did the NFL a favour by showing him what hard hitting football can do

saintsfan1976 03-03-2012 07:06 AM

Good riddance to Williams.

Danno 03-03-2012 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 381986)
In the 3 years that GW was here, all I can think of is the high-low on Favre, I don't remember any other "illegal" hits

I think Harper went a bit low on Winslow one game, but it didn't look too bad.

I think Freeman was pissed once about a low hit.

The main problem now is every time we unintentionally hurt someone, everyone is gonna think it was intentional.

alleycat_126 03-03-2012 08:23 AM

Bull ****, These guys were in their meeting room placing wagers on who makes the first big play and the nfl and the media have turned it into the biggest load of crap since spygate. These idiots said there are 5000 page documents, evidence, and testimony. Where? They also said the saints were warned to stop doing this. When? If they were warned of something of this nature, seeing that the league is all about safety now wouldn't you think that would be news worthy!!!! This is the first the public has heard of it!!! Load of crap. Super Bowl XLIV belong to us, and no media bull**** can have me believing otherwise, and if thats what gets you SB trophys I would do it again and again.

CharityMike 03-03-2012 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by alleycat_126 (Post 382064)
Bull ****, These guys were in their meeting room placing wagers on who makes the first big play and the nfl and the media have turned it into the biggest load of crap since spygate. These idiots said there are 5000 page documents, evidence, and testimony. Where? They also said the saints were warned to stop doing this. When? If they were warned of something of this nature, seeing that the league is all about safety now wouldn't you think that would be news worthy!!!! This is the first the public has heard of it!!! Load of crap. Super Bowl XLIV belong to us, and no media bull**** can have me believing otherwise, and if thats what gets you SB trophys I would do it again and again.

Exactly! Why would we have ANY documents showing payouts? That is just dumb and makes zero sense, UNLESS it was just a friendly side bet to motivate these mediocre players to make a play. Which is what I believe it truly was and not this death fund the media is making it out to be.

caddieman 03-03-2012 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by C17-BING (Post 381933)
AND THAT WAS LEGAL!!! Tell me 1 other play in the last 3 years that has been "illegal" or cheap that wasn't fined by the NFL!?!? I think it was stupid to have a bounty, but I'd like to actually see what the impact was during an actual game.

I know many will point to the Warner hit (it was legal) and Favre during the NFC Championship game (and I'll concede on that one), but what else has there been that makes this such a huge deal? Other than the fact that it was uncovered?

Who the hell has N.O. hit that was an illegal hit? Who? Which players were carted off the field because of the Saints being "dirty?" I know there is someone out there that can answer this ... I've got to be honest though --- I don't remember any besides Warner and Favre ... Anyone?

You Guys took so many shots on Farve it was just blatant and obvious what was trying to be done. Congrats, The Saints have now collected the "DIRTIEST TEAM IN THE NFL" award!

WhoDat!656 03-03-2012 11:28 AM

If the league didn't cater to the golden-child and made up the Brady Rule, then the Hi-Lo hit on Favre would be a non-issue.

As I have posted before, all that matters is that the bounty was in place.

There is no denying the bounty is true.

Benson has already said that he ordered it to be stopped immediately; I could see Benson firing Loomis for insubordination over this.

Danno 03-03-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by caddieman (Post 382113)
You Guys took so many shots on Farve it was just blatant and obvious what was trying to be done. Congrats, The Saints have now collected the "DIRTIEST TEAM IN THE NFL" award!

Tell skid britches he's next.

C17-BING 03-03-2012 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caddieman (Post 382113)
You Guys took so many shots on Farve it was just blatant and obvious what was trying to be done. Congrats, The Saints have now collected the "DIRTIEST TEAM IN THE NFL" award!

Apparently you missed the part when I said "and I concede on that one" --- which, since you aren't smart enough to understand means that I AGREED THAT WE PERHAPS TOOK SOME CHEAP SHOTS AT FAVRE!!!

That being said, was anyone on the team fined by the league? NOPE! And none of the other "bounty" hits were either at $50K per, so does it really matter than some dumbass GW gave players $1500 to hit a guy ... Anyone who has ever played the game knows that defensive players want to absolutely destroy people --- The issue for me is not that they wanted too, but in that they publicly and happily admitted it. That's not very politically correct and we all know that America is a PC NATION!!!

Ashley 03-03-2012 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jcp026 (Post 381935)
The high-low on Favre.

BS! man they were trying to get at him in a playoff game. That wasn't planned to be like that. It just happened

Jankman8 03-03-2012 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by caddieman (Post 382113)
You Guys took so many shots on Farve it was just blatant and obvious what was trying to be done. Congrats, The Saints have now collected the "DIRTIEST TEAM IN THE NFL" award!


And Iīm glad we got it....

Jankman8 03-03-2012 02:41 PM

Every team tries to after the other QB, thatīs just part of the game.

Rugby Saint II 03-03-2012 08:00 PM

Favre said it was no big deal. And Warner said it's been going on a long time. It's nothing new. It's part of the game.errrr.......was part of the game.:smile:

RaginCajun83 03-03-2012 08:43 PM

It was the playoffs, you win at any and all costs. I disagree with the bounty but not the over aggressive play of the defense during that run

ChrisXVI 03-03-2012 09:17 PM

Harper blasting Steve Smith in the endzone last season well after the play was over. Seemed pretty damn unnecessary but with this bounty talk it's making a little more sense.

Euphoria 03-03-2012 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 382451)
Harper blasting Steve Smith in the endzone last season well after the play was over. Seemed pretty damn unnecessary but with this bounty talk it's making a little more sense.

We don't know if Smith had a bounty on him first of all... secondly, he didn't "blast" Steve Smith. He hit him and nothing more than that.

It was stupid and unnecessary move on Harper's part no question on that part.

ChrisXVI 03-03-2012 09:40 PM

He drilled him dude... for no clear reason. Anyways, the original post asked for an example that wasn't fined and if I remember correctly Harper was fined for that hit so I take back my post.

FinSaint 03-03-2012 09:41 PM

You can't possibly think that hit was supposed to a "stretcher hit?"

If so, Harper is a much worse tackler than I thought.


Oh, and for reason I would say that it was a divisional game and S.S. is arguably one of the most irritating players in the NFL along with Roddy White. And if I remember correctly, S.S. had been running his mouth to some other Saints' defensive player a couple of plays before that hit.

breesfan27 03-03-2012 10:00 PM

This **** is getting way out of control. All the media outlets are making it out to seem like we killed people. According to fatass Micheal Moore, our guys were paid to "hurt or maim an opponent." Maim? Who the **** did we maim? This is getting to the level of ridiculousness. :rolleyes:

Haps Biggest Fan 03-03-2012 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caddieman (Post 382113)
You Guys took so many shots on Farve it was just blatant and obvious what was trying to be done. Congrats, The Saints have now collected the "DIRTIEST TEAM IN THE NFL" award!

So what? We are still SUPERBOWL CHAMPS for the 2009 season.

I hope YOUR team wins the reputation of being the SWEETEST team in the NFL.

breesfan27 03-03-2012 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 382138)
Tell skid britches he's next.

I wish I could like this a million times!

Haps Biggest Fan 03-03-2012 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by breesfan27 (Post 382469)
This **** is getting way out of control. All the media outlets are making it out to seem like we killed people. According to fatass Micheal Moore, our guys were paid to "hurt or maim an opponent." Maim? Who the **** did we maim? This is getting to the level of ridiculousness. :rolleyes:

Who cares what the football media says? They have nothing else to talk about right now during the offseason, so, of course they are going to talk about this.

Let the Saints-Haters lap it up. It won't change the facts about us winning our Championships, both Superbowl and Division and Conference.

Let's stand tall and tell the Haters to kiss our asses.

WhoDat!656 03-03-2012 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C17-BING (Post 381933)
AND THAT WAS LEGAL!!! Tell me 1 other play in the last 3 years that has been "illegal" or cheap that wasn't fined by the NFL!?!? I think it was stupid to have a bounty, but I'd like to actually see what the impact was during an actual game.

I know many will point to the Warner hit (it was legal) and Favre during the NFC Championship game (and I'll concede on that one), but what else has there been that makes this such a huge deal? Other than the fact that it was uncovered?

Who the hell has N.O. hit that was an illegal hit? Who? Which players were carted off the field because of the Saints being "dirty?" I know there is someone out there that can answer this ... I've got to be honest though --- I don't remember any besides Warner and Favre ... Anyone?

Who have the Saints played since then that would warrant taking out a player?

Maybe the offense should have had a bounty to take out GW during the 40 whiners game, a-la like the Payton in the Bucs game!!

FinSaint 03-04-2012 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 382478)
Maybe the offense should have had a bounty to take out GW during the 40 whiners game, a-la like the Payton in the Bucs game!!


Was it Carmichael who placed that bounty?

iceshack149 03-04-2012 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 382523)
Was it Carmichael who placed that bounty?

Maybe it was Pete Prisco.


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