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Old 03-05-2012, 12:35 PM   #1
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Breaking the locks of "Bountygate."

Bounties NFL wide problem; Breaking the locks off Saints "Bounty Gate""

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Old 03-05-2012, 12:50 PM   #2
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What I believe is that the league coerced people into revealing things about this crap. Not all, but probably many.

PLEASE let this come out if so! Let this witch hunt be exposed for what it is!
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Great read, I think you were able to objectively put the matter in the right perspective. It should really be a read for the rest of the NFL and for those who are quick to point fingers at the Saints.

The glaring fact in all these incidents being reported to me is their association with Greg Williams.

- Williams was a linebacker under Buddy Ryan, after the infamous "Bounty Bowl".
- Williams was the defensive coordinator at Washington when Peyton Manning was initially injured.
- Williams was the previous defensive coordinator at Tennessee during the period Tony Dungy claims there was a 'bounty' on Peyton Manning.

Every time a claim comes up about a 'bounty' incident, there's a trail back to Williams. Greg Williams is at the center of all this.

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Old 03-05-2012, 01:07 PM   #4
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Great read, I think you were able to objectively put the matter in the right perspective. It should really be a read for the rest of the NFL and for those who are quick to point fingers at the Saints.

The glaring fact in all these incidents being reported to me is their association with Greg Williams.

- Williams was a linebacker under Buddy Ryan, after the infamous "Bounty Bowl".
- Williams was the defensive coordinator at Washington when Peyton Manning was initially injured.
- Williams was the previous defensive coordinator at Tennessee during the period Tony Dungy claims there was a 'bounty' on Peyton Manning.

Every time a claim comes up about a 'bounty' incident, there's a trail back to Williams. Greg Williams is at the center of all this.
Appreciate it. You're right, Gregg Williams should be the person punished most.
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Old 03-05-2012, 01:35 PM   #5
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Appreciate it. You're right, Gregg Williams should be the person punished most.
And he probably will be punished big time, but it's not specific to Williams. The players themselves have said this is league-wide. OF COURSE it's league-wide. This stuff has been going on since the merger and probably before.

What's happening now is a very public attempt to posture for its own benefit...the league I mean. Greg Williams is no more to blame than Buddy Ryan or a hundred other defensive coaches over the past 30 years. The whole thing is crap on a stick.
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What about the Forty Whiners and that hit on Pierre Thomas... was that a bounty hit?

Point is every team does it to some degree.
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Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint View Post
What I believe is that the league coerced people into revealing things about this crap. Not all, but probably many.

PLEASE let this come out if so! Let this witch hunt be exposed for what it is!


You don't have to coerce anyone when you have the Undisclosed Source on the team and every team has that Undisclosed Source (snitch)
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What's funny is people in sports groups want to act like the Ravens, Steelers, etc etc are innocent.. When in fact, they're probably guilty too.
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And he probably will be punished big time, but it's not specific to Williams. The players themselves have said this is league-wide. OF COURSE it's league-wide. This stuff has been going on since the merger and probably before.

What's happening now is a very public attempt to posture for its own benefit...the league I mean. Greg Williams is no more to blame than Buddy Ryan or a hundred other defensive coaches over the past 30 years. The whole thing is crap on a stick.
IDK, player incentives have always been around, but I think you have to hold coaches like Greg Williams and/or Buddy Ryan a little more accountable when they elevate the incentives to include injuring another player.

It's a sport where a player can be injured on any legitimate, legal play anyway. The whole 'bounty' thing was just Williams' way of motivating the troops and appealing to a player's most basic instincts in order to get them to focus.

Was it right? No. That's what I don't understand, most defensive players would gladly send on opponent off an a stretcher without any monetary incentive, why even offer it?

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IDK, player incentives have always been around, but I think you have to hold coaches like Greg Williams and/or Buddy Ryan a little more accountable when they elevate the incentives to include injuring another player.

It's a sport where a player can be injured on any legitimate, legal play anyway. The whole 'bounty' thing was just Williams' way of motivating the troops and appealing to a player's most basic instincts in order to get them to focus.

Was it right? No. That's what I don't understand, most defensive players would gladly send on opponent off an a stretcher without any monetary incentive, why even offer it?
I'm going to just make an assumption Williams had no part of the "injury" aspect just of the "big hit" one. He doesn't acknowledge it in his apology, and the NFL cites only Vilma saying he would pay directly for injury.

I'm thinking this was a players pool for the injuries.
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