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... hehehe :mrgreen: ... and for the record, I wasn't the one who went to the league with this scandal ... even though it may appear I have the propensity to do so, :mrgreen:

But yeah, I figure someone needs to out the embedded trolls. What's that old saying, "The message board tree must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of posers and trolls" ... or something like that.

It's "on", like Ndamukong ... just defending my turf.

I know. It is TOTALLY out of hand. The idea of 22-27 players involved on D, how many of those can you reasonably suspend? It would be utterly ridiculous.

Jonathan Vilma is the only one that I have personally heard mentioned by name: I think he' s toast. Since he seems like the one caught holding the smoking gun, I think Vilma will be given a Deuce-like suspension, a really long one, a year or something, a suspension that may end up causing him to hang up his cleats. And if he really did this, then goodbye and good riddance.

The *real* culprit is Gregg Williams and THAT is where the disciplinary focus should be, throw the book at HIM, by all means. The whole "who knew what when" thing about the Saints front office is being completely overdone; it's obvious to anyone with a brain who looks at it, that Gregg Williams was doing this as a rogue operation, and even if they knew he was doing it, I'm not sure that there probably was very much that Payton or Loomis could have done, to stop it, if Williams was doing this behind their backs or acting as a rogue operator. It's just how Williams was, he didn't give a $%$#% about anything. I hope that cooler heads prevail and people realize, this guy was a loose cannon and a bad egg, and that is where the focus of the investigation should be. Deal with it and move on.

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Originally Posted by jokeray (Post 383115)

For the record, c'mon over and see exactly what I said, not what my FRIEND SloMo is twisting my words to be.

Here is EXACTLY what I said on the Lions boards:

In Response to Re: New Orlean Saints "Bounty" Controversy:

In my defense, some of you are a little nutty in the defense of this, in my opinion. Did you see the part where I also said I liked you guys, right there at the start of my post? And I didn't say you are all nutty, hjust some.

All teams have some nutty fans, hell, us Lions fans have a guy NAMED Sean Payton that called in bomb threats because the saints were beating us so bad. Doesn't mean all fans of that team needs to be judged by the few bad apples.

Cheers. (Nice try, Smolo.....but not really)

Perhaps you could try to understand that this is a very anxious time for the SAINTS fans on this SAINTS board.

If our posts on this SAINTS board regarding our team are perceived as "a little nutty"? I ask you to remember Suhgate and understand.

This is a VERY fairly run board. It is also a public forum that was established to discuss the SAINTS. You are welcome here.

I will exercise my right to speak my mind here. STFU with the Lions infighting and go away for awhile!

I do think GW will take the brunt of the punishment. Unless more info comes out about others involvement in it, I bet the saints, saints coaches and saints players get slapped with fines only.

Or I'd look into which ones ACTUALLY took the money for injuring someone, and look into suspending them.

My 2 cents.

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Rocky Mountain Saint: Perhaps you could try to understand that this is a very anxious time for the SAINTS fans on this SAINTS board.

If our posts on this SAINTS board regarding our team are perceived as "a little nutty"? I ask you to remember Suhgate and understand.

This is a VERY fairly run board. It is also a public forum that was established to discuss the SAINTS. You are welcome here.

I will exercise my right to speak my mind here. STFU with the Lions infighting and go away for awhile!

Yeah, because Jokeray doesn't ever, ever twist anyone else's words around .... I apologize for the infighting, but I'm just trying to get jokeray & lionsfan#54 to act accordingly and with respect to B&G and it's members. The only way I knew how was to expose this stuff.

I apologize to the board, but I felt it needed to be done to finally put an end to it.

I'm here talking football, how am i not acting accordingly?

Unlike Smolo, I am actually making posts about the subjects in these here threads, unlike him.

I seriously think most of what you guys are hearing from the media is more of the TMZ scandal-type reporting that's been going on for about a year or 2 in the nfl.

THey blow everything out of preportion, and you guys are deep in it. As an outsider, I really think you guys are going to be ok. That ***** in STL is going to take most of the punishment.

Not having a good day? :lol: And so, who exactly are the "nutty" posters on here and who exactly is supporting payments for injuring players? If you don't mind me asking.

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Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 383137)

Not having a good day? :lol:

great contribution to the thread!

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Originally Posted by jokeray (Post 383138)

great contribution to the thread!

:popcorn:

Actually, I edited it .... there's more Skippy.

Seeing as your troll war has permeated even your signatures, I think that is what is REALLY out of hand here. (Though to be fair, I think joker wins that particular battle, =P)

In any case, I have never seen a case where the former player members of the media have been so far off of what the non-former players are saying.

Former players all say, not a big deal, happens everywhere, fined for getting caught, 2-4 game suspensions for coaches for not complying with the league.
Non former players all say OFF WITH THEIR HEADS! THEY DONT GET TO DRAFT! FIRE THE COACHES!!