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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I'm all for cleaning house, but not because of this over-blown bounty crap. I want better players....

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Old 03-06-2012, 08:04 AM   #11
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I'm all for cleaning house, but not because of this over-blown bounty crap.

I want better players.
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Old 03-06-2012, 08:27 AM   #12
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With a new Defense Coaching Staff...

If you look around we have some young talent actually.

I think you have to let the smoke settle, see what suspensions are and who got them. I think that will be the tell. If there are average players at best and long suspensions... we pick up a replacement in FA and cut them. Otherwise we should avoid knee jerk reactions for now.
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Old 03-06-2012, 08:32 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by Danno View Post
I'm all for cleaning house, but not because of this over-blown bounty crap.

I want better players.

Great Point !
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Old 03-06-2012, 08:47 AM   #14
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Originally Posted by Euphoria View Post
With a new Defense Coaching Staff...

If you look around we have some young talent actually.

I think you have to let the smoke settle, see what suspensions are and who got them. I think that will be the tell. If there are average players at best and long suspensions... we pick up a replacement in FA and cut them. Otherwise we should avoid knee jerk reactions for now.
Could not have said it any better.
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Old 03-06-2012, 09:16 AM   #15
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Youngsters are a dime a dozen.
Mitch "Momma's Boy" King, never really got a chance to show his stuff last season.
There's a host of wanna be's that may shake out as actually having what it takes.
Too much dust in the air right now though ... can't see a thing.

King will hardly be the answer to the interior pass rush.

Which FA DE would you like to see the Saints sign or do you think they should just re-sign McBride and Charleston, and hope that Spags gets more out of the same guys the Saints had last season?

Like Danno said, the Saints need better players while keeping those who have good value.


Originally Posted by crawgator View Post
As far as the defense goes, why did we over pay Will Smith? He has not been as good as he could have been and there are guys out there cheaper, and that can do a better job.

It had to be in-line with the earlier contract that was given to Charles Grant, which was a much worse overpayment than Smith's contract.
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Old 03-06-2012, 11:34 AM   #16
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With 27 players named we don't have a choice but to expand our options.
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Old 03-06-2012, 12:16 PM   #17
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With 27 players named we don't have a choice but to expand our options.
I get what you are saying, and I totally agree. According to James Varney at the TImes Picayune, seven defenders now on the Saints' roster were consistent starters during the three seasons the NFL says the bounties were in place. So it's not looking good. This could be an extremely crazy season on defense. Right now we have absolutely no idea who is actually going to come running out the inflatable Saints tunnel in September when they announce the D.

BUT on the upside, there is every bit of evidence that a new coordinator with the relative same people/talent can produce an improvement. It happened with Gibbs in his first year here (NFC Championship game appearance). It happened with Williams in his first year here (Super Bowl win). Guys WILL play better for a new coach, knowing they are on the hot seat for their jobs (IF of course, they are allowed to play by the league and are not suspended). It happens that way everywhere around the league when a new coordinator comes in (San Francisco's D last year being a great example).
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Maybe the defense's first play of the year should be a 15 yard unnecessary roughness just to make the statement that we are not going to play with kid gloves, it's still football. LOL
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I've come to the conclusion that if we are going to take hits to our draft picks then we are going to have to part with some our over paid vets. Vilma will undoubtedly be singled out and may be gone for a variety of reasons.
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