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MatthewT 03-07-2012 02:48 AM

Who is the snitch???
 
NFL needs to protect the Saints

Heck yeah, I would love to know who snitched. My take is the snitch should be ran out of New Orleans if he is still there.

In no way shape or form am I condoning the tactics of Gregg Williams, but he did help bring the Saints a Super Bowl win, and we should all never forget that. Obviously, some extra motivational tools were at hand, but seriously, a snitch?

Talk about biting off the hand that feeds you. I am sure whoever that person is, Uncle Tom paid that man well, and now that man is trying his best to screw the Saints over.

In the end, we are dealing with a major rat. That major rat is going to cost the Saints draft picks, and put the best coaches on planet earth on ice. This entire situation has the potential to completely derail the Saint organization. If the worse happens, the 2012 season has 5-11 written all over it.

Now, are you guys with me? Who is the snitch? I ain't saying we do anything dumb, but we can boo and hope he gets cut.

WhoDat!656 03-07-2012 04:56 AM

Now writers are worried about the snitch
 
NFL needs to protect the Saints

Saint_LB 03-07-2012 05:53 AM

Interesting names brought up in the comment section as to who the "snitch" might be...

Reggie Bush
Jeremy Shockey

God...I hope it's not Reggie. Shockey I could care less...

Saint_LB 03-07-2012 06:17 AM

OK...I can't lie...

I did it!

Supertek 03-07-2012 06:40 AM

This whole thing P M off. Go ahead and give us the punishment so we can move on. For the Saints to have to be punished for what they did is right but they should not be the only ones made to pay. Every team should be investigated and punished likewise as to the degree that this was organized in their organization and a lot of these people are going to shut their mouths because they are also guilty also of that I am sure. As far as the snitch I do not think he will ever be reveled. Greg Williams turned out to be a giant ass the result of an inflated ego to think he can do anything he wants and he pissed off the wrong man. Now He will pay only wish Payton and Loomis would of had the balls to meet him head on and they didn't so now they will pay also and the team and us fans suffer as a result.

FinSaint 03-07-2012 06:53 AM

http://mafiatoday.com/wp-content/upl.../03/snitch.jpg

TheOak 03-07-2012 07:10 AM

Well.... Obviously this can be narrowed down to a few select candidates.

What defensive players have left the Saints since 2009? Who left this year? Which ones left on bad terms? Was there anyone brought up from the practice squad for a few games then cut?

Gone, but not necessarily on bad terms:
Darren Sharper
Scott Fujita
Charles Grant
Mike Mckenzie
Usama Young
.......


"protect the snitch"?
Is there an NFL witness relocation plan?

"Sir we will change your number and hide you in the Canadian Football League".

SmashMouth 03-07-2012 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 384054)
Interesting names brought up in the comment section as to who the "snitch" might be...

Reggie Bush
Jeremy Shockey

God...I hope it's not Reggie. Shockey I could care less...

It may now be inevitable the name comes out... and if an active player, does he even play another down in NFL?

Budsdrinker 03-07-2012 07:22 AM

My guesses are Charles Grant or Bobby McCray. Both left on bad terms and haven't played a down since. McKenzie, Sharper and Fujita still have good ties in New Orleans.

HouYat 03-07-2012 07:32 AM

I've got to agree with you, Buds....it's either McCray or Grant. I'm thinking it's McCray though.

SapperSaint 03-07-2012 07:51 AM

Bobby has a lot of "hater" tweets getting sent to him.....

I really don't want to know who it was, to tell you the truth. It's not going to make the problem go away.

Ashley 03-07-2012 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SapperSaint (Post 384083)
Bobby has a lot of "hater" tweets getting sent to him.....

I really don't want to know who it was, to tell you the truth. It's not going to make the problem go away.

True but it feels nice to knock the crap of a snitch

st thomas 03-07-2012 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 384074)
My guesses are Charles Grant or Bobby McCray. Both left on bad terms and haven't played a down since. McKenzie, Sharper and Fujita still have good ties in New Orleans.

the second i heard it; i said its mcCray he really thought he out played all in the playoffs then got wacked from the team after the superbowl. its all specalation of coarse.

Ashley 03-07-2012 10:35 AM

If I had to say it's Grant, I can see Sean saying "Charles your fat ass is worthless".

SaintsBro 03-07-2012 10:37 AM

I think ya'll are wrong to be hating on the snitch, or worrying about it, but that's just my personal opinion. What happened with the 'pay for performance' program was wrong. Save the anger for Gregg Williams and the coaching staff who oversaw and controlled it, and the players who ramped it up and escalated it.

Besides, before you guys go through the whole roster and throw your entire Super Bowl defensive team under the bus, Darren Sharper has already told you who it was...it was not a player, it was an employee of the Saints. When has a player ever referred to another player an "employee," think about that. It's not a player. It's someone else.

ScottF 03-07-2012 10:46 AM

The snitch part is not important. What is important is that 3 well-paid professionals were told not to do something and did it anyway.
They (and we) will now pay the price.

st thomas 03-07-2012 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 384161)
I think ya'll are wrong to be hating on the snitch, or worrying about it, but that's just my personal opinion. What happened with the 'pay for performance' program was wrong. Save the anger for Gregg Williams and the coaching staff who oversaw and controlled it, and the players who ramped it up and escalated it.

Besides, before you guys go through the whole roster and throw your entire Super Bowl defensive team under the bus, Darren Sharper has already told you who it was...it was not a player, it was an employee of the Saints. When has a player ever referred to another player an "employee," think about that. It's not a player. It's someone else.

there all employee's saintsbro.

Ashley 03-07-2012 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 384161)
I think ya'll are wrong to be hating on the snitch, or worrying about it, but that's just my personal opinion. What happened with the 'pay for performance' program was wrong. Save the anger for Gregg Williams and the coaching staff who oversaw and controlled it, and the players who ramped it up and escalated it.

Besides, before you guys go through the whole roster and throw your entire Super Bowl defensive team under the bus, Darren Sharper has already told you who it was...it was not a player, it was an employee of the Saints. When has a player ever referred to another player an "employee," think about that. It's not a player. It's someone else.

Just having some fun with this Saintsbro, it's a bad deal we all know it. Just have to try to throw a little humor in here. If not we are going to look like this

Beastmode 03-07-2012 11:03 AM

Doesn't matter to me, what's done is done. Gotta grab the boot straps and drive on. Even if we knew, it wouldn't change anything.

SaintsBro 03-07-2012 11:14 AM

OK I know. Keep thinking and believing it's Bobby McRay, if you want to, st. thomas, but it's not...you're barking up the wrong tree. If it was Bobby McRay, he sure wouldn't be tweeting support to Malcolm Jenkins like so:

@MalcolmJenkins If u get fined $20-50K for an illegal hit y would a player risk payin $50k to get a $1500 bonus? #DoesntAddUpLiterally

Or this?

Bobby McCray ‏ @bobbymccray
"Dry Snitching is not healthy for the soul..put your name behind it."

Doesn't sound like a "snitch" to me. It wasn't a player. Darren Sharper said he knows who it was, though not of course by name.

Srgt. Hulka 03-07-2012 11:15 AM

First person I thought of was Shockey, with the way he acted during our first game against the panties, but the investigation was already underway when he left.

Saint_LB 03-07-2012 11:49 AM

What about Scott Fujita?

Ashley 03-07-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 384186)
What about Scott Fujita?

No he has too many ties here with the city, friends and was on good terms. No way

Beastmode 03-07-2012 12:15 PM

Like I said, it doesn't matter to me but if I had to guess, I'm thinking it' was someone on the staff. It would not be the first a disgruntled staff member snitched on the Saints...there was the whole vicodin or whatever it was incident. It would have to be someone holding a serious grudge. My second guess would be the former long snapper..he was basically fired after the financial swindle he got everyone involved in.

RaginCajun83 03-07-2012 12:17 PM

Did any defensive coaches leave on bad terms while this was going on? Sharper said it was an employee, my money would be on McCray or Grant

kel180 03-07-2012 02:35 PM

Sharper said it was an employee..... I found this yesterday:

"Santini, the Saints’ former director of security, filed a lawsuit against the franchise 22 months ago, alleging that general manager Mickey Loomis asked him to participate in a cover-up of felony theft of prescription Vicodin involving coach Sean Payton."

I'm assuming this is who he means....

gandhi1007 03-07-2012 03:18 PM

If I had to say, it would probably be the most classless Saint ever.......Reggie Bust.

alexonfyre 03-07-2012 03:41 PM

It was Gregg Williams. Mark my words, we may not know for sure until som ESPN 30 for 30 special 20 years from now, but it was Gregg Williams. No doubt in my mind.

jcp026 03-07-2012 03:56 PM

Why are we talking about this? They say that the league knew about the bounties in '09 and a chance to stop then. THIS IS OUR F***ING FAULT!

ScottF 03-07-2012 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kel180 (Post 384273)
Sharper said it was an employee..... I found this yesterday:

"Santini, the Saints’ former director of security, filed a lawsuit against the franchise 22 months ago, alleging that general manager Mickey Loomis asked him to participate in a cover-up of felony theft of prescription Vicodin involving coach Sean Payton."

I'm assuming this is who he means....

very old news

alexonfyre 03-07-2012 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jcp026 (Post 384297)
Why are we talking about this? They say that the league knew about the bounties in '09 and a chance to stop then. THIS IS OUR F***ING FAULT!

Yeah, it's our fault, and I'm not angry at the league for punishing us eventually, but a snitch is still a snitch. Ever remember in elementary school when a kid would get in trouble, and then the kid who told on him would get in trouble for tattling? Same thing.

jcp026 03-07-2012 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by alexonfyre (Post 384301)
Yeah, it's our fault, and I'm not angry at the league for punishing us eventually, but a snitch is still a snitch. Ever remember in elementary school when a kid would get in trouble, and then the kid who told on him would get in trouble for tattling? Same thing.

Sure, but we're adults.

alexonfyre 03-07-2012 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jcp026 (Post 384313)
Sure, but we're adults.

If we were all adults we wouldn't have been making side bets about hurting people.

OldMaid 03-07-2012 09:53 PM

Whoever it was needs to pay the penalty too.
All those guilty needs a punishment.

Supertek 03-12-2012 09:58 AM

After reading the newspaper last week I think it was Mike Ornstien. May be misspelled. But it did say he had a fallout with Benson and this guy has a long history about trouble,

TheOak 03-12-2012 11:05 AM

Examining the tape of Saints-Packers - NFC North Blog - ESPN

"Earlier Friday, we noted an email New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton received from marketing agent Mike Ornstein that offered a $10,000 bounty for knocking Green Bay Packers quarterback out of the teams' season-opening game in 2011."

SaintsBro 03-12-2012 11:35 AM

It was not Ornstein, that makes no sense. He is close friends with Sean Payton, why on earth would he try and bring Payton down or get him in trouble. The person who snitched, snitched on Ornstein, Ornstein is part of the problem but he is not the one doing the talking/singing to the NFL. It's someone else. The league has a long-standing beef with Ornstein going back to the Oakland Raiders days in the '80s, they really don't like him and they don't like that Payton is friends with him.

TheOak 03-12-2012 11:47 AM

Maybe Ornstein's bookie is not happy he is padding the odds?

Bookies know the game, ill bet there are not many that do not know about bounties, as they may play in that arena also.

winmill1 03-12-2012 12:40 PM

Jason David? Don't remember if he was gone or not.

FinSaint 03-12-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by winmill1 (Post 386095)
Jason David? Don't remember if he was gone or not.


He was waived on August 17, 2009


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