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Euphoria 03-07-2012 08:32 AM

SCOTT FUJITA: on Cleveland radio this morning
 
Says "he paid money into the bounty system".

Euphoria 03-07-2012 08:34 AM

I find it very hard to believe Darren Sharper saying he knew NOTHING about it.

I think the reason Sharper denies it is because the money he collected for all those INT"s. Hello IRS.

Ashley 03-07-2012 08:38 AM

Well sharper did say now, that a couple of 100 here and there for ints. Fumbles etc. Not just to put someone out of a game.

Danno 03-07-2012 08:44 AM

Darren Sharper -

"I don't like the term "bounty" being used about the program that we had," Sharper said."Was it overseen and controlled by the coaching staff? Yes, it was.
But this is something that the players came up with. We wanted to give guys an extra motivation, an extra reward of making big plays in big games. And those big plays included sacks, interceptions, scoring touchdowns on defense...things we did throughout my time there that allowed us to win in the fashion that we won."

Theformer Saints star pointedly said that there was never a "cash for injuries" system that is being described in the media.

"In no way...did we come into the room before the game, and say, 'if a guy hurts this player, their best player...we're going to reward that guy for doing that.'

At no time was that said during any of the meetings that I was a part of in the New Orleans Saints organization."

Euphoria 03-07-2012 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashley (Post 384102)
Well sharper did say now, that a couple of 100 here and there for ints. Fumbles etc. Not just to put someone out of a game.

By the definition of the rule...

even this is illegal.

SapperSaint 03-07-2012 08:54 AM

The thing you have got to hand to Sharper is that he wasn't throwing the team under the bus.

That earns him a little respect in my book. What happens in the locker room, stays in the locker room.

Euphoria 03-07-2012 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SapperSaint (Post 384112)
The thing you have got to hand to Sharper is that he wasn't throwing the team under the bus.

That earns him a little respect in my book. What happens in the locker room, stays in the locker room.

Not when its illegal or wrong.

You have a responsibility to the game and to everyone who plays the game. They were even warned to stop it and they did not.

SapperSaint 03-07-2012 09:34 AM

Ok. Then the NFL, no wait. The Government needs to step in and outlaw gambling on all sporting. All NFL players need to under-go mandatory lie detectors and if they ever KNEW of any kind of "Bounty, Money Pool, Player insentive program", they should all be suspended and fined.

This type of action that the Saints have infected the NFL with is so gross and morbid that the NFL should disolve the New Orleans Saints and remove any and all history of this team or it's players from the history books. Only the War Crimes commited by the Nazi Party are historically worst than what the Saints have done.

Come on Euph, you are starting to sound like Skip Blayless.

Euphoria 03-07-2012 09:52 AM

WTF are you talking about???

Nazi's really?

You do know that most if not all corporations have some kind of policy banning office pools right? Its to prevent employees from having issues or problems if and when things go bad. It protects the corporation. NFL is no different and they have the rule on the books.

You don't cover up a crime... that in itself is a crime. So Penn State should have kept raping boys "in the locker room". Oh wait they did... lol.

SapperSaint 03-07-2012 10:03 AM

I'm not arguing with you Euph..... I got nothing but love for you brother.

It just seems as if this is a heart attack of an issue that this happened/happening and that the Saints invented it. Don't get me wrong, I do not give a stamp of approval on it. I think this started out as some "In House" fun and turned into a pile of steaming poo.

After this came out in the open, it explains why our defense wasn't "Tackling" anybody. They were too busy worrying about getting the "Hit of the Game" money. This whole thing got out of hand. From beginning to the end of it. SP should have said, "Hey, enough is enough. This is affecting you guys' performance to the point that you are hitting, trying to strip the ball instead of tackling and that men, is Bull Hockey in my book. CUT IT OUT OR YOU'RE OUT".

This couldn't have come out at a more wrong time. It's almost as if a soap opera writer wrote what is going on with this team right now.

Ashley 03-07-2012 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 384108)
By the definition of the rule...

even this is illegal.

True, so what the NFL should do now iis go after all the players who are coming out and say "They have done the same thing, put money up for ints, etc". Because it is illegal right they have broken rules. So how do you fix this? It's not right to throw a hammer at them cause it's the past. Well this BS about the play off games is the past too. Then the whole NFL system is illegal.

Euphoria 03-07-2012 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashley (Post 384138)
True, so what the NFL should do now iis go after all the players who are coming out and say "They have done the same thing, put money up for ints, etc". Because it is illegal right they have broken rules. So how do you fix this? It's not right to throw a hammer at them cause it's the past. Well this BS about the play off games is the past too. Then the whole NFL system is illegal.

Well they start by hammering the ones that took it to far... Seems to be Greg Williams and the teams he was involved with.

Then anyone who took part in it and didn't say they have a morale issue with it.

Once the smoke clears you start enforcing the policy and point out that all pools are illegal by the NFL rule and simply sweep what everyone was doing under the rug. Punish people for going forward for there so called innocent incentive programs form ints and fumbles.

The tough and sad part is that it happens to be the Saints and how it got way out of hand.

Euphoria 03-07-2012 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SapperSaint (Post 384135)
I'm not arguing with you Euph..... I got nothing but love for you brother.

It just seems as if this is a heart attack of an issue that this happened/happening and that the Saints invented it. Don't get me wrong, I do not give a stamp of approval on it. I think this started out as some "In House" fun and turned into a pile of steaming poo.

After this came out in the open, it explains why our defense wasn't "Tackling" anybody. They were too busy worrying about getting the "Hit of the Game" money. This whole thing got out of hand. From beginning to the end of it. SP should have said, "Hey, enough is enough. This is affecting you guys' performance to the point that you are hitting, trying to strip the ball instead of tackling and that men, is Bull Hockey in my book. CUT IT OUT OR YOU'RE OUT".

This couldn't have come out at a more wrong time. It's almost as if a soap opera writer wrote what is going on with this team right now.

I see your points don't get me wrong but when it comes to breaking morale issues and NFL rules things like that shouldn't be sweep under the rug and kept in the locker room. But things like having an argument because you took my parking spot... yeah that stays in the locker room.

FYI: You know sports betting is illegal in most states right?

SapperSaint 03-07-2012 10:28 AM

yeah, I know. Billions of dollars are bet each week in each State of the Union. What can you do, ya know?

Euphoria 03-07-2012 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SapperSaint (Post 384153)
yeah, I know. Billions of dollars are bet each week in each State of the Union. What can you do, ya know?

True that... you just don't want to be the one who is holding the books when they come busting down your door though.

Saint_LB 03-07-2012 11:43 AM

Getting back to Scott Fujita...and chance he's the snitch?

saintfan 03-07-2012 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 384131)
WTF are you talking about???

Nazi's really?

You do know that most if not all corporations have some kind of policy banning office pools right? Its to prevent employees from having issues or problems if and when things go bad. It protects the corporation. NFL is no different and they have the rule on the books.

You don't cover up a crime... that in itself is a crime. So Penn State should have kept raping boys "in the locker room". Oh wait they did... lol.

From Google on down, I've never worked for a company that banned office pools. Never. I'm sure some do, but I'm not sure the "Most is not all" is even close to accurate. I'm nearly 43 and have worked for 6 different corporations from small broadcast entities all the way to Google. If it were common to ban office pools I'm pretty sure I'd have seen it somewhere along the way. I haven't.

Mardigras9 03-07-2012 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 384183)
Getting back to Scott Fujita...and chance he's the snitch?

Doubt it.

Luda34 03-07-2012 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 384101)
I find it very hard to believe Darren Sharper saying he knew NOTHING about it.

I think the reason Sharper denies it is because the money he collected for all those INT"s. Hello IRS.

Of course he does but the code is to not say anything. That's a true man right there your not suppose to talk about it outside the locker room.

Luda34 03-07-2012 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 384183)
Getting back to Scott Fujita...and chance he's the snitch?

Why would he snitch he's still playing and he can get in a lot of trouble. The snitch is someone out hte league that wants to make some noise and in need of money.

Rugby Saint II 03-07-2012 01:17 PM

You're out of order........you're out of order...........the whole damn system is out of order!

saintfan 03-07-2012 01:21 PM

I wouldn't suspect Scott Fujita. His wife on the other hand...

Euphoria 03-07-2012 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 384211)
From Google on down, I've never worked for a company that banned office pools. Never. I'm sure some do, but I'm not sure the "Most is not all" is even close to accurate. I'm nearly 43 and have worked for 6 different corporations from small broadcast entities all the way to Google. If it were common to ban office pools I'm pretty sure I'd have seen it somewhere along the way. I haven't.

Check the employee hand book.

I am willing to be there is a clause in their. Everyone I worked for had them in their. But we also had Football pools, NCAA bracket pools.

And yes even the NFL has the policy.

saintfan 03-07-2012 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 384243)
Check the employee hand book.

I am willing to be there is a clause in their. Everyone I worked for had them in their. But we also had Football pools, NCAA bracket pools.

And yes even the NFL has the policy.

Seriously? Dude Google required us to have mandatory sessions with lawyers about everything you can imagine. I can say I never searched through the documentation specifically for office pools. What I CAN say is that Google was (and still is) SO concerned about such things I doubt VERY SERIOUSLY they would allow management to promote office pools the way they do.

The deal was always this: You can't make a profit, meaning the person or group running the pool can't make any money off it. That's pretty much it.

Google Engineers have created tools to help people set up brackets and have promoted them on the 'official' Google blog.

I can only say that, based on what I know, this sort of thing would absolutely not be allowed if there were a specific policy against it. In other words, I think I'm willing to take your bet. :mrgreen:

It's interesting because, technically, office pools aren't legal in California.


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