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papz 03-09-2012 02:50 PM

Can Chase Daniel win 10 games?
 
Very curious what everyone thinks... obviously a team game, but do you think with Daniel at the helm, we can win 10 games?

saintfan 03-09-2012 02:51 PM

If the team hasn't been decimated with injuries and NFL imposed sanctions, yeah, I think he could.

alexonfyre 03-09-2012 02:54 PM

A first year starter is going to have his share of problems, but I think if we get a couple lucky breaks he could make it. He could definitely go .500 though.

Beastmode 03-09-2012 02:55 PM

He's better than a long list of former Saints starting QB's and they could usually get 6-7 so yeah, I think he could pull it off.

dizzle88 03-09-2012 03:00 PM

He would need a heavy dose of a running game for his first year, at the minute he's not the kind of guy that can sling it around 36 times i dont think.

But yeah.... if he was named the starting QB, i'd be supporting him and i think he could win 10 games for us

|Mitch| 03-09-2012 03:06 PM

I believe he can. Depending on what happens with free agency and Goodells punishment.

Hopefully the defense under Spags will be better at limiting points...

The running game can be used as a crutch to help him through tough times...

LBCutta 03-09-2012 03:17 PM

no

SaintsBro 03-09-2012 03:30 PM

Where it gets interesting is that Chase is a Restricted Free Agent...if another team makes him an offer, the Saints can have the right to match it and keep him...Or if the Saints elect not to match the offer, the rule is that they may receive draft-choice compensation, depending on the level of the qualifying offer made to Chase by the other team. Not sure if Goodell would let us keep those draft picks, given the penalties and punishments we're in for, but if he does (if the punishment is just to TAKE AWAY some of the Saints pre-existing "normal" draft picks, not affecting any other picks they may acquire legally through trades or transactions such as this)....well you might see the Saints give up a few RFA's like Chase, just to get some picks in the 2013 draft, somewhere. Even by leaving us, Chase may help us out.

Ashley 03-09-2012 03:37 PM

Sure why not. With help of course

Danno 03-09-2012 03:58 PM

With the 20 million we save by not signing Brees, we could add some nice talent.

And I'm not convinced Chase Daniel is our starter if Brees doesn't sign.

But if we did go with Chase, yes he could win 10 games with a few bounces going our way.

ScottF 03-09-2012 04:00 PM

If Brees, for whatever reason, is not here next year, I don't think Chase will be the starter. Too many other guys with experience available

RaginCajun83 03-09-2012 04:00 PM

This stupid poll reeks of Saintsreport

CharityMike 03-09-2012 04:13 PM

Maybe he could. One thing I like is he is not scared to run if he has to.

ChrisXVI 03-09-2012 04:27 PM

We couldn't win 10 games a few years ago with Drew at QB. Hell no we wouldn't win 10 with Chase.

Danno 03-09-2012 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 385248)
We couldn't win 10 games a few years ago with Drew at QB. Hell no we wouldn't win 10 with Chase.

Come to think of it, if we lose Nicks, Colston, Vilma and Meachem, we may struggle to win 10 games with Brees.

Euphoria 03-09-2012 04:39 PM

Not with our Defense.

FinSaint 03-09-2012 04:45 PM

Depending off course on various other factors - yes, I think he could, but the gameplan would need to be more balanced or even have an emphasis on the running game.

Danno 03-09-2012 04:45 PM

It would all depend on what we do if we don't sign Brees.

Yes we could win 10, but we'd need some serious upgrades and some lucky bounces.

If we had the exact same team as last year but with Chase... 8-8, maybe 9-7.

Pete 03-09-2012 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 385269)
It would all depend on what we do if we don't sign Brees.

Yes we could win 10, but we'd need some serious upgrades and some lucky bounces.

If we had the exact same team as last year but with Chase... 8-8, maybe 9-7.

Keyword:WE:smile:

foreverfan 03-09-2012 05:05 PM

See Payton Manning. Enough said.

RockyMountainSaint 03-09-2012 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 385269)
It would all depend on what we do if we don't sign Brees.

Yes we could win 10, but we'd need some serious upgrades and some lucky bounces.

If we had the exact same team as last year but with Chase... 8-8, maybe 9-7.

Yes.

I don't, for a second, believe that Indy's problems were even 50% because Peyton was injured.

They were a BAD, aged team across the board.

I believe that the Colts would have been 8-8 at best with Peyton last year.

I believe that it will manifest in a 5-11 record this year. It will be glossed over by the talking heads, but they are in serious rebuilding mode.
Addai, Clark, Bullitt out in Indianapolis, too | ProFootballTalk

Euphoria 03-09-2012 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 385281)
Yes.

I don't, for a second, believe that Indy's problems were even 50% because Peyton was injured.

They were a BAD, aged team across the board.

I believe that the Colts would have been 8-8 at best with Peyton last year.

I believe that it will manifest in a 5-11 record this year. It will be glossed over by the talking heads, but they are in serious rebuilding mode.
Addai, Clark, Bullitt out in Indianapolis, too | ProFootballTalk

???

Give me a break you don't believe that do you?

The team is built around Manning. Offese high powered score lots of points and you build your D with a pass rush to protect the lead. Simple math.

With out Manning... you D can't play the way they are designed to play. Let alone your offense.

RockyMountainSaint 03-09-2012 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 385288)
???

Give me a break you don't believe that do you?

The team is built around Manning. Offese high powered score lots of points and you build your D with a pass rush to protect the lead. Simple math.

With out Manning... you D can't play the way they are designed to play. Let alone your offense.

They are an old team that has robbed peter (52 players) to pay Paul (Peyton Manning).

Would you accept the Saints centering their entire potential success around one player?

The Colts have 1 ONE UNO EIN ICHI Super Bowl win for that model for success in 13 seasons!

The Saints achieved a Super Bowl with their model within 4 seasons.

Apples and Oranges and all of that poop, but, I don't want to go down that particular road.

Euphoria 03-09-2012 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 385291)
They are an old team that has robbed peter (52 players) to pay Paul (Peyton Manning).

Would you accept the Saints centering their entire potential success around one player?

The Colts have 1 ONE UNO EIN ICHI Super Bowl win for that model for success in 13 seasons!

The Saints achieved a Super Bowl with their model within 4 seasons.

Apples and Oranges and all of that poop, but, I don't want to go down that particular road.

Manning isn't the highest paid player in the league.

We do center our team around one player. We failed at it for the most part but Bree's scoring a lot of points and an opportunistic D. We were pretty much built like the Colts.

Seer1 03-09-2012 05:43 PM

Shouldn't the question be, "Can Spags win ten games?" 20 mil would buy a lot of defense....

papz 03-09-2012 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 385228)
This stupid poll reeks of Saintsreport

Feel free to elaborate.

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/s...fc/popcorn.gif

RaginCajun83 03-09-2012 06:30 PM

Cause it seems every offseason, even during the season there is some stupid poll or a complete hypothetical question that makes no sense that litters that board, that's one of the reason's why I like it here so much, less BS and more substance

papz 03-09-2012 06:35 PM

With all due respect, and I don't read the other message board, this is the first time in the past few seasons that this has a chance of actually happening... even though it is minuscule. This isn't coming out of the blue and is legitimate. Don't confuse the boards and lump my question into whatever stupidity that irks you at another board. I can't help it if moronic questions are constantly asked somewhere else.

If I made a poll that stated if Vilma were to be cut and Dunbar takes over, do you think he could handle the full load of games in the middle? Is that stupid too?

frankeefrank 03-09-2012 07:58 PM

Over the Course of Two years... sure he could

jcp026 03-09-2012 08:21 PM

Daniel is probably the fourth best QB in franchise history, which isn't very good, but there is a lot of talent around him. PLAYOFF BOUND!

Marlboro Man 03-09-2012 10:15 PM

We must remember that the backup QB doesn't get many snaps every week to get him ready to start. If Daniel was the starter, then he'd get those snaps and I think that would make him better. We should also remember that Daniel was a sensational college QB and had a very high completion percentage so I think that would also translate. Add to that, the additional coaching from SP and I think Daniel may just surprise a lot of people.

MatthewT 03-10-2012 01:31 AM

I think Daniel would be decent, but the Saints would really need to go to a run first type of style. The thing that would scare me with Daniel is the interceptions, which usually happens with first year starters. I would say if Daniel was the starter in 2012, no to 10 wins, by 2013 he should be very good and can easily win 10.

UK_WhoDat 03-10-2012 06:19 AM

With last year's defense - No.

joker-saint 03-11-2012 04:38 AM

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Saint_LB 03-11-2012 06:46 AM

I think part of the problem here is that people believe so much that Brees is the only guy that can win here, but personally I don't think that. If all the cast members stay in place, then I think any QB with a reasonable NFL level skillset can succeed here.

The thing is this. How many people knew that Brees was going to do as good as he did here before he came? Be honest.

How many people knew that Brady was going to turn out to be legendary status as he was lining-up to take the 1st snap after Bledsoe went down?

How many people knew that it would be a QB by the name of Aaron Brooks that would deliver us our 1st playoff win?

I am very content to just sit back and let things play out. No matter what happens, we will still have a team and someone will be behind center...and although I am not saying that I want to see Brees go...if he does in fact turn out to be the greedy jerk that he looks like now, then I don't have a problem with sitting back and seeing what the next guy can do, because, after all, for me it is just entertainment. If the Saints lose every game next year then I will still wake up every morning and go about my life in a normal fashion. Again...just entertainment.

SaintsBro 03-11-2012 12:31 PM

For me it's kinda going back to that old school thing -- with a flask of good whiskey smuggled into the 600 level on Sundays, ANY Saints QB can possibly win ten games, until he loses seven.

voodooido 03-11-2012 03:26 PM

No, plus he is not even signed.

bobdog86 03-11-2012 07:27 PM

If you honestly believe Daniels would be anything better than mediocre you are completely delusional. .500 at best

ScottF 03-11-2012 08:47 PM

starting with Flynn and ending with Quinn, there are about 12-15 better quarterbacks available.

Rugby Saint II 03-11-2012 09:01 PM

We've had very little opportunity to see him in action. All he does is hand off the ball. I don't think Payton wants his surprise to get out.


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