Player's Union asks NFL to delay Saints punishment

03-13-2012, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I'm on more of a popcorn budget.

Lol It's the thought that counts Rugby

alexonfyre · 03-13-2012, 09:37 PM

The player's union wants to advocate for no penalties for the players and pin it all on Williams, Loomis and Payton, but they have to make sure that they have the evidence to back it up.

QBREES9 · 03-13-2012, 11:14 PM

Rip the band aid off, time to move on

goguxxx · 03-14-2012, 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by alexonfyre

The player's union wants to advocate for no penalties for the players and pin it all on Williams, Loomis and Payton, but they have to make sure that they have the evidence to back it up.

Looks like it ,and the NFL made it clear that they warned the Saints to stop using the system in 2009 and they said they will,but didnt. That is why the organization and the coaches are going to get hit . Lets put it this way :

-Players and GW put this system in place - they should be blamed and punished;
-The Saints organization was warned to stop using the system (reportedly,i didnt hear anything about it at the time) - they should also be blamed and punished .

I have no idea if the league will consider the players or the Saints organization the main culprit ,but i would hope it is the players,if its the team i fear we get some kind of draft picks removed or some other heavy crap.

Crusader · 03-14-2012, 02:24 AM

I really really HATE De Smith and the NFLPA.

TheOak · 03-14-2012, 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by goguxxx

Looks like it ,and the NFL made it clear that they warned the Saints to stop using the system in 2009 and they said they will,but didnt. That is why the organization and the coaches are going to get hit . Lets put it this way :

-Players and GW put this system in place - they should be blamed and punished;
-The Saints organization was warned to stop using the system (reportedly,i didnt hear anything about it at the time) - they should also be blamed and punished .

I have no idea if the league will consider the players or the Saints organization the main culprit ,but i would hope it is the players,if its the team i fear we get some kind of draft picks removed or some other heavy crap.

Problem is... If you punish the players, which ones were involved? I am sure they are all honest and will fess up..

If you punish all players involved.... you punish other teams, some of those players have moved on.

I do not find it difficult to believe that Brees didn't know what was going on with the Defense. They are separate entities... I do have trouble even considering that Fujita wasn't a big part of it being on our Defense and one of the Defensive leaders...

SapperSaint · 03-14-2012, 07:31 AM

In a way I want this over and done with. I hope the NFLPA is doing this for the entire NFL from top to bottom and not just for their own agenda.

As Tom Petty said: "The waiting, is the haaardest paaart"

03-13-2012, 09:24 PM	#11
Threaded by Pete • Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Patterson, LA Posts: 1,741 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I'm on more of a popcorn budget. Lol It's the thought that counts Rugby
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03-13-2012, 09:37 PM	#12
alexonfyre Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Black Pearl University Posts: 799	The player's union wants to advocate for no penalties for the players and pin it all on Williams, Loomis and Payton, but they have to make sure that they have the evidence to back it up. Euphoria likes this.

03-13-2012, 11:14 PM	#13
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,982	Rip the band aid off, time to move on TheOak likes this.

03-14-2012, 02:13 AM	#14
goguxxx Registered Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Romania Posts: 63	Originally Posted by alexonfyre The player's union wants to advocate for no penalties for the players and pin it all on Williams, Loomis and Payton, but they have to make sure that they have the evidence to back it up. Looks like it ,and the NFL made it clear that they warned the Saints to stop using the system in 2009 and they said they will,but didnt. That is why the organization and the coaches are going to get hit . Lets put it this way : -Players and GW put this system in place - they should be blamed and punished; -The Saints organization was warned to stop using the system (reportedly,i didnt hear anything about it at the time) - they should also be blamed and punished . I have no idea if the league will consider the players or the Saints organization the main culprit ,but i would hope it is the players,if its the team i fear we get some kind of draft picks removed or some other heavy crap.

03-14-2012, 05:31 AM	#16
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Originally Posted by goguxxx Looks like it ,and the NFL made it clear that they warned the Saints to stop using the system in 2009 and they said they will,but didnt. That is why the organization and the coaches are going to get hit . Lets put it this way : -Players and GW put this system in place - they should be blamed and punished; -The Saints organization was warned to stop using the system (reportedly,i didnt hear anything about it at the time) - they should also be blamed and punished . I have no idea if the league will consider the players or the Saints organization the main culprit ,but i would hope it is the players,if its the team i fear we get some kind of draft picks removed or some other heavy crap. Problem is... If you punish the players, which ones were involved? I am sure they are all honest and will fess up.. If you punish all players involved.... you punish other teams, some of those players have moved on. I do not find it difficult to believe that Brees didn't know what was going on with the Defense. They are separate entities... I do have trouble even considering that Fujita wasn't a big part of it being on our Defense and one of the Defensive leaders...

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03-14-2012, 02:24 AM	#15
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 7,985	I really really HATE De Smith and the NFLPA.

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SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	In a way I want this over and done with. I hope the NFLPA is doing this for the entire NFL from top to bottom and not just for their own agenda. As Tom Petty said: "The waiting, is the haaardest paaart"