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BOLTS4LIFE 03-14-2012 03:00 AM

So tell me about Robert Meachem...
 
Hey guys,

He signed a four year contract worth $25.9 million.
Would you say that's a good signing?
Think he'll be a good target for Rivers?
If you guys had the cap room, would you be happy if he resigned for the same amount?

Tell me a little about this guy. Thanks. :cool:

Crusader 03-14-2012 03:23 AM

Speedy WR with ok routes and decent hands. Has not flourished in the Saints "spread the wealth" offence. Would not be worth the money for the Saints but might be for the Chargers, especially since jackson is leaving.

BOLTS4LIFE 03-14-2012 04:13 AM

Oh... 14M guaranteed.

FinSaint 03-14-2012 05:07 AM

The Saints have Henderson, who pretty much has the same skill-set as Meachem, so it wouldn't have been a smart business decision to re-sign him for that money even if they had had the cap for it.

A lot of potential, but it never really came together for him with the Saints, but it could with the Bolts.

dizzle88 03-14-2012 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 387075)
The Saints have Henderson, who pretty much has the same skill-set as Meachem, so it wouldn't have been a smart business decision to re-sign him for that money even if they had had the cap for it.

A lot of potential, but it never really came together for him with the Saints, but it could with the Bolts.

Yeah the last bit is exactly right, a lot of potential but never really came together for our team. We will end up picking up a late 7th rounder or undrafted guy and they will take meachems role, although devery has quite a bigger role now meachem is gone

We all know how much luck we have with undrafted/7th rounders compared
To 1st rounders

We don't seem to have luck with 1st round picks

Crusader 03-14-2012 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 387076)
We don't seem to have luck with 1st round picks

I wouldn't say that, we had 5 1st round Picks starting on defence this year.

TheOak 03-14-2012 06:35 AM

He has from time to time been affectionately known as Meatchump... He can get the dropsies... and does not fight for the ball. It has to be in his hands in stride.

Your concern should be the combo of Meachem and Rivers..... Meachem is a speed long ball receiver.... I have seen Rivers accuracy decline in the last year and he could be throwing interceptions trying to get it to Meachem.

Beastmode 03-14-2012 06:55 AM

Fast, ok hands, has dropped some easy ones but has also made big plays. If targeted more, I could see hime getting over 1,000 yards.

papz 03-14-2012 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BOLTS4LIFE (Post 387062)
Hey guys,

He signed a four year contract worth $25.9 million.
Would you say that's a good signing?
Think he'll be a good target for Rivers?
If you guys had the cap room, would you be happy if he resigned for the same amount?

Tell me a little about this guy. Thanks. :cool:

Good player, excellent blocker, vertical threat that should fit well in that offense. That said, I would have never thought about signing him for that type of money here... even if Colston left us. They did have to outbid Buffalo which is why they had to overpay.

SapperSaint 03-14-2012 08:26 AM

I agree with what the other guys have said. Y'all should be happy with him. I think he is going to be a good addition to the Bolts.

subguy 03-14-2012 08:34 AM

He is one of those WR you would say gosh I haven't seen Meach do anything in a while and then the next game it would be his turn in the carousel. But that is in our offense where I think decent talent receivers can look good. I don't have a true feel of what he can do as "the man"

dizzle88 03-14-2012 08:40 AM

When Meach has a good game, he really has a good game

I think he just got a little lost in our system, Brees spreads it around to so many people the ones that really excel are the ones that work the underneath routes because meachem and devery henderson would be drawing the coverage downfield.

Colston, Lance Moore and Jimmy graham excel because of how the offense was designed - Meach and dev taking the safeties with them.

When meach was called upon though, he produced, he will be better targeted more and wouldnt get lost in the bolts system

papz 03-14-2012 08:59 AM

Meachem should be able to put up Vincent Jackson type numbers there... he has the talent to do so. But it's not like 55 million dollar Vincent Jackson was put up gaudy numbers anyways. 60-70 1000 7-9 is definitely attainable with Rivers at the helm and the opportunities to do so. Meach might even be a more consistent threat on a week to week basis there... Jackson was famous for his disappearing acts.

Danno 03-14-2012 09:01 AM

Great kid, good football player, very likable, fast with good size.

He did a lot of things here that went unnoticed. Excellent blocker and never complained about being a decoy strtching the field and clearing out the middle of the field allowing Colston and our TE's and slot receivers to excel.

You got a good player, but you did overpay slightly. Then again, everyone overpays at need positions in free agency.

Budsdrinker 03-14-2012 09:20 AM

Yep, I agree with Danno. The only knock I have on Meachem is he tends to look for the sidline instead of making a move for extra yards but he does the little things well. Again I agree with the over pay part but who knows he may see more balls come his way and it may be worth it for you.

Speedy Ron 03-14-2012 09:33 AM

Meach will prob be good with yall. i think he got the better end of the deal ( yall over paid a little) but he runs in the 4.3 range. He was a retard at first and couldnt learn the playbook but after 2 years he finally got it and was able to show his skills

foreverfan 03-14-2012 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 387078)
I wouldn't say that, we had 5 1st round Picks starting on defence this year.

And so what's your point? ;)

Crusader 03-14-2012 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 387124)
And so what's your point? ;)

That we didn't have 5 7th rounders starting. We do pretty well in the first round. Apart from Sullivan there have not been any real disasters in quite a while.

dizzle88 03-14-2012 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 387126)
That we didn't have 5 7th rounders starting. We do pretty well in the first round. Apart from Sullivan there have not been any real disasters in quite a while.

I didn't mean that all our first round picks were disasters, it just seems that when we get undrafted free agents or late round picks, they always tend to outplay the one we selected in the first round

jcp026 03-14-2012 10:17 AM

I like him, but, in our offense at least, I can't see giving him that much money. Definitely want to see him have success in S.D.

niteadept 03-14-2012 10:20 AM

Liked Meachem. Seemed to be a really good guy that never complained, but could make the big plays when called on. Seemed to do pretty well during our SB run, but the next year he fell off. Came back around last year and was more consistent. Happy for him, but I expect Henderson to get more play now. Come on Dev!

Danno 03-14-2012 10:24 AM

We aren't exactly tearing it up in the middle/late rounds...
Stanley Arnoux
Chip Vaughn
Taylor Melhalf
Demario Pressley
David Jones
Antonio Pittman
Andy Alleman
Mike Hass
Josh Lay
I think we do better than most throughout the draft, but I'll put our 1st thru 3rd rounders up against most teams.

darstep 03-14-2012 10:34 AM

Meachem's hands disappear in traffic. He can't even find them.
Streaking with a step over the shoulder he's great.
He reverts back to the bread basket/protect myself thing across the middle.
He did well for what we needed him to do.
I hope he works well for you guys and "earns" his keep.

Pete 03-14-2012 11:13 AM

Meachem is a bum!He can't run,can't make acrobatic catches,and the best part is he will tear your locker room to shreds!Best of Luck Meachem.:bng:

mikesaintfan 03-14-2012 11:18 AM

my favorite RM memory


FinSaint 03-14-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete (Post 387188)
Meachem is a bum!He can't run,can't make acrobatic catches,and the best part is he will tear your locker room to shreds!Best of Luck Meachem.:bng:


Ok, why don't you tell us how you really feel? :-)

alexonfyre 03-14-2012 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesaintfan (Post 387200)

Was just about to post this. Now it's on the thread twice, as it deserves to be.

SaintsBro 03-14-2012 11:41 AM

For a long time I used to watch the strip/fumble on Youtube whenever I felt I needed to get pumped up for a game! He will always be loved here for that. I hope he does well in San Diego.

alexonfyre 03-14-2012 12:04 PM

I don't really agree that he didn't fight for the ball, or that he couldn't catch in traffic or a lot of other criticisms, his main issue was that he gets the dropsies pretty bad from time to time.

This video is also a pretty good indication that he is a player to get excited about:

Rugby Saint II 03-14-2012 12:40 PM

I wish him well. For a speedy receiver he was pretty slow to learn the play book.

RockyMountainSaint 03-14-2012 01:36 PM

The most important thing that you need to know is: There will be ridiculous, petty posts all over your board when people misspell his name.

Meachum
Meacham
Meechem
Meechum
Meecham

BOLTS4LIFE 03-14-2012 02:07 PM

Thanks for the feedback, guys. As much as I hated to see Jackson walk, we saved over 30M by letting him walk and signing Meachem. Another thing I like about him is that he's a tall guy. Rivers has been throwing to tall receivers pretty much his whole career.

We play you guys in the Dome this season. Do you think there will be much reception when he hits the field?

darstep 03-14-2012 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BOLTS4LIFE (Post 387304)
...
We play you guys in the Dome this season. Do you think there will be much reception when he hits the field?

Yep! Harper's got some love waiting for him in the middle.

alexonfyre 03-14-2012 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by darstep (Post 387315)
Yep! Harper's got some love waiting for him in the middle.

I'll clap for him until he catches his first pass, then I will be booing and hissing and cursing his name.

Speedy Ron 03-14-2012 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOLTS4LIFE (Post 387304)
Thanks for the feedback, guys. As much as I hated to see Jackson walk, we saved over 30M by letting him walk and signing Meachem. Another thing I like about him is that he's a tall guy. Rivers has been throwing to tall receivers pretty much his whole career.

We play you guys in the Dome this season. Do you think there will be much reception when he hits the field?

wasnt really the most popular receiver in my eyes. he was 3rd or 4th when lance moore was healthy so i think people will be indifferent. i know i was pissed when we drafted him. i dont think his jersey was a top seller. i think rivers and him will be better for Meach's game...he'll probably catch a few long td passes.

dizzle88 03-14-2012 03:46 PM

Yeah I believe we should have gone defense instead of drafting meach that year but we didn't, good luck to meach, all the same not when he plays us, if it's a player that's left the saints I want to see them get embarrassed, have a poor game or take a big hit from us.....it's the team we support not the player

AlaskaSaints 03-14-2012 04:00 PM

I hope he burns us in the Dome for a looong one. Then spikes the ball at midfield.

Alaska

RockyMountainSaint 03-14-2012 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 387337)
I hope he burns us in the Dome for a looong one. Then spikes the ball at midfield.

Alaska

Yeah, when the Saints are up by 28 pts!

frankeefrank 03-14-2012 04:23 PM

Sorry Charger Fan, I love Meachem, but $25 million is a mistake. Big mistake. His hands are not reliable and he disappears way too easy. Another reason why I think this is a mistake is your front office has had terrible judgement in the past few years. Think about this, the Chargers were willing to pay Meachem more than they ever paid Brees.

BOLTS4LIFE 03-14-2012 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankeefrank (Post 387346)
Sorry Charger Fan, I love Meachem, but $25 million is a mistake. Big mistake. His hands are not reliable and he disappears way too easy. Another reason why I think this is a mistake is your front office has had terrible judgement in the past few years. Think about this, the Chargers were willing to pay Meachem more than they ever paid Brees.


Actually when they gave Brees a franchise tag, they gave him 8 million. This was in 2005, following that break out season he had in 2004.

Good thing is that only 14 million of Meachem's contract is guaranteed.


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