Drew not willing to sign Franchise tender

SapperSaint · 03-14-2012, 09:58 AM

I do too, Rocky.

Business as usual. Sign players we need; "Drew, there's the contract". Keep doing what you are doing Micky!

Halo · 03-14-2012, 10:06 AM

This is a sad, annoying subject for me. Watching Bobby Hebert hold out years ago because the Saints wanted to give him a "hometown discount" I could understand that one. But Brees has no excuse here as we've offered him the most we've ever offered a player (or almost anyone else in the NFL has been offered).

Drew needs to get that front-loading of the contract crap out of his head. If he plays 2 or 3 years on the current contract and gets injured, he'll have more than enough to retire on.

Come on Drew, be reasonable.

SapperSaint · 03-14-2012, 10:14 AM

Thank you HALO.

That is the thing that just drives me crazy about this deal. If we were offering him Kyle Orton Money, I could see his displeasure with the FO. But man, they have thrown a lot of money at him. I may get bashed for this, but I'm going to say it anyways:

Drew, Sean Payton made you great. In all aspects of your game (with the help from Mickey), other than throwing the ball for you. I love you dude. But you're killin me. You're goshdarn KILLIN ME!

saintfan · 03-14-2012, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

Well, with Nicks gone; I don't see what the freakin problem is, NOW.

Surely, they can take $5 Million frrom what they were going to give Carl and give it to Drew. I think that would make it the 3rd time the Saints have offered him the richest contract in the NFL.

Yeah, they could. But 'should' they?

st thomas · 03-14-2012, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

This is a sad, annoying subject for me. Watching Bobby Hebert hold out years ago because the Saints wanted to give him a "hometown discount" I could understand that one. But Brees has no excuse here as we've offered him the most we've ever offered a player (or almost anyone else in the NFL has been offered).

Drew needs to get that front-loading of the contract crap out of his head. If he plays 2 or 3 years on the current contract and gets injured, he'll have more than enough to retire on.

Come on Drew, be reasonable.

reasonable is right i believe he has plenty of money now for his kids grand kids will never spend all of it , its all icing on the cake for him now and hes got that go for the kill shot . i pray it don't get ugly.

Rsanders24 · 03-14-2012, 10:20 AM

I hope they don't look at the crazy deal Detroit just gave Calvin Johnson...7 yrs/132 M for a receiver?!?!? Im sooo glad we got the Colston deal done too. I have faith that Loomis will make Brees happy!

Rsanders24 · 03-14-2012, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

I hope they don't look at the crazy deal Detroit just gave Calvin Johnson...7 yrs/132 M for a receiver?!?!? Im sooo glad we got the Colston deal done too. I have faith that Loomis will make Brees happy!

Nevermind...I just realized that contract includes a ton of money he wil never see...

st thomas · 03-14-2012, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

I hope they don't look at the crazy deal Detroit just gave Calvin Johnson...7 yrs/132 M for a receiver?!?!? Im sooo glad we got the Colston deal done too. I have faith that Loomis will make Brees happy!

CJ is a freak, is he worth that contract , idunno the saints could'nt shut him down in a route.

RockyMountainSaint · 03-14-2012, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

Nevermind...I just realized that contract includes a ton of money he wil never see...

$60 mil guaranteed.
He could fall down the stairs at home today and never play again.
He still gets the moolah.
Not bad.

AsylumGuido · 03-14-2012, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

Well, with Nicks gone; I don't see what the freakin problem is, NOW.

Surely, they can take $5 Million frrom what they were going to give Carl and give it to Drew. I think that would make it the 3rd time the Saints have offered him the richest contract in the NFL.

The problem doesn't have anything to do with the overall contract. It deals with the structure. Let's say the biggest deal in the NFL was an average of $25 million per year (five years $125 million) and you personally wanted more than that. Now let's say I offered you $135 million five year deal with $15 million the first year, $20 million the second year, $25 million the third year, $35 million the fourth year and $50 million in year five.

How does that sound to you? Biggest deal in the NFL, right? But, here is the catch ... years four and five are not guaranteed. If you get injured or retire you get nothing.

03-14-2012, 10:06 AM	#12
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,208 Blog Entries: 45	This is a sad, annoying subject for me. Watching Bobby Hebert hold out years ago because the Saints wanted to give him a "hometown discount" I could understand that one. But Brees has no excuse here as we've offered him the most we've ever offered a player (or almost anyone else in the NFL has been offered). Drew needs to get that front-loading of the contract crap out of his head. If he plays 2 or 3 years on the current contract and gets injured, he'll have more than enough to retire on. Come on Drew, be reasonable. fhotard, SapperSaint, RockyMountainSaint and 2 others like this.
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03-14-2012, 10:14 AM	#13
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Thank you HALO. That is the thing that just drives me crazy about this deal. If we were offering him Kyle Orton Money, I could see his displeasure with the FO. But man, they have thrown a lot of money at him. I may get bashed for this, but I'm going to say it anyways: Drew, Sean Payton made you great. In all aspects of your game (with the help from Mickey), other than throwing the ball for you. I love you dude. But you're killin me. You're goshdarn KILLIN ME! Halo likes this.

03-14-2012, 10:18 AM	#14
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by SapperSaint Well, with Nicks gone; I don't see what the freakin problem is, NOW. Surely, they can take $5 Million frrom what they were going to give Carl and give it to Drew. I think that would make it the 3rd time the Saints have offered him the richest contract in the NFL. Yeah, they could. But 'should' they?

03-14-2012, 10:19 AM	#15
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Originally Posted by Halo This is a sad, annoying subject for me. Watching Bobby Hebert hold out years ago because the Saints wanted to give him a "hometown discount" I could understand that one. But Brees has no excuse here as we've offered him the most we've ever offered a player (or almost anyone else in the NFL has been offered). Drew needs to get that front-loading of the contract crap out of his head. If he plays 2 or 3 years on the current contract and gets injured, he'll have more than enough to retire on. Come on Drew, be reasonable. reasonable is right i believe he has plenty of money now for his kids grand kids will never spend all of it , its all icing on the cake for him now and hes got that go for the kill shot . i pray it don't get ugly.

03-14-2012, 10:24 AM	#17
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,471	Originally Posted by Rsanders24 I hope they don't look at the crazy deal Detroit just gave Calvin Johnson...7 yrs/132 M for a receiver?!?!? Im sooo glad we got the Colston deal done too. I have faith that Loomis will make Brees happy! Nevermind...I just realized that contract includes a ton of money he wil never see...

03-14-2012, 09:58 AM	#11
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	I do too, Rocky. Business as usual. Sign players we need; "Drew, there's the contract". Keep doing what you are doing Micky!

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03-14-2012, 10:20 AM	#16
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,471	I hope they don't look at the crazy deal Detroit just gave Calvin Johnson...7 yrs/132 M for a receiver?!?!? Im sooo glad we got the Colston deal done too. I have faith that Loomis will make Brees happy!

03-14-2012, 10:27 AM	#19
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Originally Posted by Rsanders24 Nevermind...I just realized that contract includes a ton of money he wil never see... $60 mil guaranteed. He could fall down the stairs at home today and never play again. He still gets the moolah. Not bad.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,393	Originally Posted by SapperSaint Well, with Nicks gone; I don't see what the freakin problem is, NOW. Surely, they can take $5 Million frrom what they were going to give Carl and give it to Drew. I think that would make it the 3rd time the Saints have offered him the richest contract in the NFL. The problem doesn't have anything to do with the overall contract. It deals with the structure. Let's say the biggest deal in the NFL was an average of $25 million per year (five years $125 million) and you personally wanted more than that. Now let's say I offered you $135 million five year deal with $15 million the first year, $20 million the second year, $25 million the third year, $35 million the fourth year and $50 million in year five. How does that sound to you? Biggest deal in the NFL, right? But, here is the catch ... years four and five are not guaranteed. If you get injured or retire you get nothing.

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