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WhoDat!656 03-15-2012 03:32 AM

Check out Carl Nicks reason for going to Tampa Bay
 
“The run game, man,’’ Nicks said, when asked what attracted him to the Bucs. “No disrespect to our team (the Saints), but we’re pass first, pass second, pass third, pass fourth, fifth and sixth team and maybe some runs at the end. The Saints have great running backs. But here it’s a little different. We’ve got a big bruiser (LeGarrette Blount). We’re going to pound the ball, pound the ball and go over the top.’’

Nicks: Bucs can have best guard combo - NFC South Blog - ESPN

I wonder how how he will feel when he realizes the reason the Bucs run so much is because they CAN'T pass!!

Crusader 03-15-2012 05:12 AM

Not very surprising. Passblocking just isn't that much fun when you play O-line.

LBCutta 03-15-2012 06:04 AM

All Nicks will be is the newest member that Josh Freeman and other Bucs can argue with on national television.

saintsfan1976 03-15-2012 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 387680)
“The money, man,’’ Nicks said, when asked what attracted him to the Bucs. “No disrespect to our team (the Saints), but we pass too much and I don't like it. We’ve got a big bruiser (LeGarrette Blount). We’re going to pound the ball, pound the ball and go over the top. I sure hope this doesn't shorten my career because of injury.’’

:p

hagan714 03-15-2012 07:07 AM

if you were to knock anything about Nicks as a OG it would be his pass blocking. nit picking but it is the area he lacks in a bit. stunts do get him once in a while. going to be a heck of a whole to fill. OC last season and now OG this year

B005TED 03-15-2012 07:18 AM

The run game has nothing to do with it, he's all about the MONEY. If he really wanted to get back to the playoffs or be on a team that actually has the potential to go back to the Superbowl he would have kept his ass put here in New Orleans.

TheOak 03-15-2012 07:28 AM

I am not too sure about that B005ted... 16 games with a team that focuses on something that is your weak point can be exhausting.

jeanpierre 03-15-2012 07:40 AM

Will get some objective evidence now that he'll have Josh Freeman throwing for him...

Speedy Ron 03-15-2012 08:07 AM

well, he had to say something...
he obviously knows freeman, who has really dropped off since his rookie year, isnt near what brees is. and their run game isnt that good either, legarret blount was benched at the end of the season

Kryptonite 03-15-2012 08:13 AM

Yes, he will be missed...money is the biggest reason for leaving. And, big guys don't like moving their feet much. Pass blocking requires "reactive" foot movement. That takes a lot out of an OL overtime. Run blocking requires you to go to a certain spot and block a certain guy, so it's more planned out than pass blocking, plus it gives them a chance to showcase their strength and throw their weight around.

SloMotion 03-15-2012 08:20 AM

... Nicks talks a lot, but he doesn't really say that much, know what I mean? Good luck riding LeGarrette Blount all the way to the SuperBowl, big fella' ... I'd say right about midseason he'll be remembering what it was like to play for a 'pass-first, pass-second, pass-third' team and be wishing he was back there ... just sayin'.

jcp026 03-15-2012 08:24 AM

He went there because of the money, but he is right about our philosophy. It's infuriating to watch for three and a half quarters as we pass the ball 75% of the time and then get a few more runs in at the end to make it appear that we're semi-balanced. We're loaded at running back and we used a first round pick on Ingram last year. POUND THE ROCK!

SaintGup 03-15-2012 08:43 AM

I don't understand... We ran for over 2,000 yards last season. So is he saying he wants more run plays but with a team that makes less yardage? That's not too smart because it says 'I want mine'. He formed part of a good O Line for us but I was disappointed in his comments. If it is for the money, say it's for the money. If it is because you like the way the Bucs roll, say it. But don't disrespect the team you left behind just because it wasn't all about you. Remember when Brees threw for over 5,000 yards the first time? Not one receiver got over 1,000 yards but did you hear them whine and kvetch? No you didn't. Disappointed in you Mr Nicks.

MistaBigXXL 03-15-2012 09:04 AM

I don't really buy into this being the true reason for him going to Tampa. We all know it was about the money. IMO these comments are a bit personal and I hope that he ends up pass blocking even more, because the bucs will always be playing from behind.

alexonfyre 03-15-2012 09:12 AM

The funny thing was that he said "We don't really have anybody getting 20 carries a game" (speaking of the Saints, still in present tense) "Reggie might get 7, Pierre gets 11, Ingram gets like 10...Here Legarette is going to run the ball 20+ times a game."

Well...that means that the Saints generally run the ball over 30 times a game (once you count our gadget plays and stuff) which is actually much rarer with a one-back team.

AsylumGuido 03-15-2012 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 387731)
... Nicks talks a lot, but he doesn't really say that much, know what I mean? Good luck riding LeGarrette Blount all the way to the SuperBowl, big fella' ... I'd say right about midseason he'll be remembering what it was like to play for a 'pass-first, pass-second, pass-third' team and be wishing he was back there ... just sayin'.

Unfortunately it looks to me like they'll be riding Trent Richardson, in addition to Blont, this season.

AsylumGuido 03-15-2012 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by alexonfyre (Post 387749)
The funny thing was that he said "We don't really have anybody getting 20 carries a game" (speaking of the Saints, still in present tense) "Reggie might get 7, Pierre gets 11, Ingram gets like 10...Here Legarette is going to run the ball 20+ times a game."

Well...that means that the Saints generally run the ball over 30 times a game (once you count our gadget plays and stuff) which is actually much rarer with a one-back team.

I watched the interview live. What he said after that is that it is difficult to get into groove run blocking with so many different styles rotating in and out. Each individual runner needs different blocks.

Tobias-Reiper 03-15-2012 09:57 AM

hmmm...
According to nfl.com

2011
Saints 6th in rushing 26.9 att/G 2127 yards 4.9 per
Bucs 30th in rushing 21.9 att/G 1458 yards 4.2 per

2010
Myriad of injuries at RB left the Saints at 28th rushing.
Bucs ended 8th.

2009
Saints 6th in rushing 29.2 att/G 2106 total yards 4.5 per
Bucs 23th in rushing 25.2 att/G 1627 total yards 4.0 per



darstep 03-15-2012 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 387762)
I watched the interview live. What he said after that is that it is difficult to get into groove run blocking with so many different styles rotating in and out. Each individual runner needs different blocks.

That's very true. You never see PT getting the same play that Ivory/Ingram gets.
Payton's schemes have never been one size fits all.
I used to wonder why PT screens looked so good and Reggie's were the ugly bubble thing.
He just answered my long standing question about why running was so ineffective at times.
They would never get in a groove.
They would never establish control of the line of scrimmage.
Pass blocking is defensive. They are on their heels trying to keep defenders at bay.
Run blocking puts you on your toes with the defender on his heels.
That's got to be the preferred posture and mind set for an O-lineman.
It's very difficult to flip that switch when you've been on your heels for most of the day.
Nick's was just talking because he was asked.
It wasn't politically correct to say "The Money". You guys know that. Give him a break.
He's got to start jell'in with a whole new crew..."What's up fellas! I'm just here for the money". C'mon.
Good luck CNicks. I hope it all works out for you...
Except against the Black&Gold.

alexonfyre 03-15-2012 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 387762)
I watched the interview live. What he said after that is that it is difficult to get into groove run blocking with so many different styles rotating in and out. Each individual runner needs different blocks.

Right, so he will have an easier job, and will get paid more.
The Saints offense is so good because everyone's job is hard, and they do it very well.

73Saint 03-15-2012 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 387690)
:p

Ding ding ding!

AsylumGuido 03-15-2012 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by alexonfyre (Post 387784)
Right, so he will have an easier job, and will get paid more.
The Saints offense is so good because everyone's job is hard, and they do it very well.

Personally, I would change jobs tomorrow if I could get that same trade.

:mrgreen:

papz 03-15-2012 11:26 AM

It couldn't have been that hard to get into a groove knowing that we've ranked as one of the best offenses in the NFL the past gazillion years... then parlaying that into becoming the highest paid guard in the NFL.

I'm sure it was an awful time.

xan 03-15-2012 11:48 AM

I wonder how much money it takes to make losing feel alright?

$9.5 million, I assume.

Wonder exactly how he'll grade out now that he's protecting a marginal quarterback with a so-so supporting cast.

Boutte 03-15-2012 02:00 PM

i don't know why these guys don't just admit to going to the highest bidder. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. There's a huge difference between 8 mil and 9 mil.

Rugby Saint II 03-15-2012 02:05 PM

"Looking back it was the biggest mistake of my life". Carl Nicks--2012:doh:

saintfan 03-15-2012 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by xan (Post 387832)
I wonder how much money it takes to make losing feel alright?

$9.5 million, I assume.

Wonder exactly how he'll grade out now that he's protecting a marginal quarterback with a so-so supporting cast.

I am wondering the same thing.

iceshack149 03-15-2012 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 387886)
"Looking back it was the biggest mistake of my life". Carl Nicks--2012:doh:

Que?

Mardigras9 03-15-2012 03:13 PM

The Ravens ran 64% of their offense behind Grubbs, guess we're trading down...........whatever. Bye Carl, good luck.

TheEnigma 03-15-2012 03:15 PM

Wasn't LeGarrette Blount benched last year?

papz 03-15-2012 03:16 PM

All the time. I think he might have had one game with 20 carries.

Edit - Nevermind he had 3.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/gamelo...arrette-blount

RailBoss 03-15-2012 03:28 PM

It's a loss for us, good player!

QBREES9 03-15-2012 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 387680)
“The run game, man,’’ Nicks said, when asked what attracted him to the Bucs. “No disrespect to our team (the Saints), but we’re pass first, pass second, pass third, pass fourth, fifth and sixth team and maybe some runs at the end. The Saints have great running backs. But here it’s a little different. We’ve got a big bruiser (LeGarrette Blount). We’re going to pound the ball, pound the ball and go over the top.’’

Nicks: Bucs can have best guard combo - NFC South Blog - ESPN

I wonder how how he will feel when he realizes the reason the Bucs run so much is because they CAN'T pass!!

Carl R U kidding me. It was the money.

jeanpierre 03-16-2012 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 387703)
if you were to knock anything about Nicks as a OG it would be his pass blocking. nit picking but it is the area he lacks in a bit. stunts do get him once in a while. going to be a heck of a whole to fill. OC last season and now OG this year

When you think about his size, it's a waste as he can't play in space at Tackle...

skymike 03-16-2012 07:28 AM

Enjoy that money Carl.
I was thinking you already had money.
What you really needed was another Ring, but oh well.

QBREES9 03-16-2012 12:45 PM

How did Tampa work out for Jeff Fanie

Marlboro Man 03-16-2012 03:58 PM

:doh:What did y'all expect him to say? Hey man, I came down to Tampa for the money? We all know that's why he went, well that, the beach and the babes

skymike 03-16-2012 03:59 PM

Like we dont have babes in Louisiana....

Marlboro Man 03-16-2012 04:00 PM

Don't know do ya. Didn't have that many when I was living there.

skymike 03-16-2012 04:04 PM

just walk around the Dome on game day....
....or any small town. I swear Many, Louisiana had more beautiful
women per capita than any major U.S. city. So did Zwolle, but
then you had to deal with some jealous badazz holding a pool stick.

love them country girls.


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