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Danno 03-17-2012 08:44 AM

FA DT Brodrick Bunkley Visiting
 
Larry Holder's twitter:

#Broncos FA DT Brodrick Bunkley is scheduled to visit #Saints Sunday, according to source. N.O. has a hole at DT w:Franklin, Rogers as UFAs.

linkage: https://twitter.com/#!/LHolderCBS

FinSaint 03-17-2012 09:05 AM

http://images.t-nation.com/forum_ima...ab-Bunkley.jpg


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At least one AFC personnel director believes Brodrick Bunkley is the best 4-3 nose tackle available in free agency.

The 4-3 nose position is different from the 3-4 nose. 4-3 NTs are ordinarily lighter and expected to rush the passer more. "He's got some talent," the AFC exec said of Bunkley. "He can get up the field and be that penetrator." Other potential 4-3 nose tackles on the market include Pat Sims (Bengals), Luis Castillo (Chargers), Trevor Laws (Eagles), and Cory Redding (Ravens).

Source: 1500 ESPN Twin Cities
http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nfl/...odrick-bunkley


After he was traded to the Broncos last August for an undisclosed draft pick in the 2013 draft - he played the year with a $1.285M base salary without any additional bonuses.

His original contract with the Eagles was for 6yr/$13M with an average annual salary of $2.17M/yr.


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[He] bench pressed 225 pounds 44 times at the 2006 NFL Combine in one of the top performances in the history of the event.

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Broncos defensive tackle Brodrick Bunkley is making his presence felt

In the end, Brian Dawkins saw it coming. The 15-year veteran had gazed into the Broncos' future and predicted how it would all look.

Now, 10 games into the season, defensive tackle Brodrick Bunkley is exactly what Dawkins said he would be: a powerful presence in the middle of the defense and "just a great, great dude to be around."

The Broncos' defense continues to steadily climb out of the statistical abyss that was 2010, when Denver finished at, or near, the bottom of the NFL rankings in virtually every defensive category. During the makeover, the Broncos re-signed Champ Bailey, drafted linebacker Von Miller, got Elvis Dumervil back from injured reserve and, just as training camp opened, traded for Bunkley.

"We haven't had a guy like that, not since I've been here," Dumervil said. "He's been like a monster in there. You see a big guy dominating in there, dominating the centers, you see the job he did dominating an all-pro center like (the New York Jets' Nick) Mangold last week. That's a difference-maker."

"Everyone has their personal goals, their personal wants," Bunkley said. "My main focus is to do whatever I can so I won't be a liability on the team, won't be a weakness, to do my job, do it right."

Bunkley is athletically gifted enough to have been the 14th pick of the 2006 draft by the Philadelphia Eagles, just three spots after the Broncos selected quarterback Jay Cutler. But after a rough start to his rookie season, in which he was Dawkins' teammate, Bunkley never rose to the expectations that came with being a first-round pick.

Philadelphia traded him to Cleveland in August for a fifth-round pick, but the Browns quickly nixed the trade after a medical examination. (Bunkley suffered nerve and ligament damage to his left elbow a season ago, but he maintains the injury didn't require surgery and would not have been an issue had he played with the Browns.)

The Broncos stepped in and traded a conditional draft pick to the Eagles for Bunkley, who was inserted into the starting defensive line almost as soon as he got here. He hasn't missed a practice this season.

"He's the guy we've been looking for," Dumervil said. "You can have the pass rushers and the guys at corner, making interceptions, but if you're going to be a good defense, you have to have that guy in the middle. He's our guy in the middle."

At first glance, Bunkley's statistics — 23 tackles and no sacks — look modest. But with players such as Miller and Dumervil attacking the edges, Bunkley anchors the interior.

Bunkley said he's been able to add "a little bit of weight working out here" since his post-lockout arrival. Having that extra bulk helps him hold his own.

"Maybe not the same quickness as high school, man," Bunkley said with a laugh. "You want to get yourself to a weight you can manage, you don't want to be too big and lose your quickness and you don't want to be too small and lose your power. There's a fine line between them."

Dawkins, having watched the Broncos limp through last year's 4-12 season, said Bunkley brought a refreshing attitude to Dove Valley, as well as a big body desperately needed.

"Wanting to be part of a solution because it's important to him," is how Dawkins described Bunkley's outlook.

That was evident in the Broncos' 1-4 start when Bunkley, often still wearing his grass-stained uniform, would be in front of his locker long after most of his teammates had gone after a game.

"Really, it's a chance to reflect, just check out what I've done, things I can do better at," Bunkley said. "I don't hold up the bus or anything. But a lot of time my emotions are running each and every way. If you lose, you're angry. If you win you're super excited — last week I was super excited — but I want to hold it down, my area, that's my objective.

"I don't want to disappoint anybody, I never have."

Jeff Legwold: 303-954-2359 or jlegwold@denverpost.com
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_19415002


From what I've read, he seems to be one of the only FAs the Broncos' fans desperately want to see being re-signed.

RockyMountainSaint 03-17-2012 10:31 AM

Saints hosting Bunkley, and other free agent defensive tackle notes | ProFootballTalk

Larry Holder of CBS Sports reports that the Saints will host defensive tackle Brodrick Bunkley for a free agent visit on Sunday.

It’s Bunkley’s first known visit since the signing period began last Tuesday.

Mike Triplett of the New Orleans Times-Picayune took the time to examine where other outlets had Bunkley rated in the 2012 free agency class. SI’s Peter King had him as the No. 10 overall free agent. CBS Sports’ Pete Prisco rated Bunkley 24th. We had him 53rd.

Bunkley is a 4-3 nose tackle, essentially an undersized run stopper. He hasn’t sacked a quarterback since the 2009 season.

|Mitch| 03-17-2012 10:33 AM

I know nothing of this Bunkley guy...

alexonfyre 03-17-2012 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 388598)
Saints hosting Bunkley, and other free agent defensive tackle notes | ProFootballTalk

Larry Holder of CBS Sports reports that the Saints will host defensive tackle Brodrick Bunkley for a free agent visit on Sunday.

It’s Bunkley’s first known visit since the signing period began last Tuesday.

Mike Triplett of the New Orleans Times-Picayune took the time to examine where other outlets had Bunkley rated in the 2012 free agency class. SI’s Peter King had him as the No. 10 overall free agent. CBS Sports’ Pete Prisco rated Bunkley 24th. We had him 53rd.

Bunkley is a 4-3 nose tackle, essentially an undersized run stopper. He hasn’t sacked a quarterback since the 2009 season.

Buy low....very low hopefully. One-year Aubrayo Franklin type of deal.

FinSaint 03-17-2012 11:02 AM

He has some very strong arms and an upper body, which causes problems for guards and centers 'cos he has the strength to swat their hands away and penetrate to the backfield.

I would not put too much emphasis on the lack of sacks, because he has been playing with some really good pass rushers with the Eagles and the Broncos, so the sacks may have been counted to some other guys' stats, but he certainly has helped in that overall productivity.

Honestly, I'd rather see him signed than Franklin, because Bunkley suits a 4-3 defense better than Franklin who is a natural 3-4 NT, and Bunkley is much more mobile and agile.

The fact that he was brought into the league under Jimmy Johnson's tutelage makes me thing that Spags likes his fundamentals, he himself being a product of Jimmy Johnson's coaching system.

|Mitch| 03-17-2012 11:09 AM

wonder how expensive he will be?

FinSaint 03-17-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 388610)
wonder how expensive he will be?


Like I posted on an earlier post:

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After he was traded to the Broncos last August for an undisclosed draft pick in the 2013 draft - he played the year with a $1.285M base salary without any additional bonuses.

His original contract with the Eagles was for 6yr/$13M with an average annual salary of $2.17M/yr.

I can't see him getting much more than ~$3M/yr in the current market, maybe he'd even sign cheaper than that.

MatthewT 03-17-2012 11:55 AM

Not too sure about this guy, my initial gut reaction is pass.

papz 03-17-2012 12:27 PM

Don't know how to feel either... he's been quite the underachiever throughout his career. He should have been a dominating DT.

frydaddy 03-17-2012 01:58 PM

Even for an underachiever though, it sounds as though he could very well achieve more than the Franklin/rogers duo managed last season, and if its for the right price I'd really like to see him sign

FinSaint 03-17-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 388638)
Even for an underachiever though, it sounds as though he could very well achieve more than the Franklin/rogers duo managed last season, and if its for the right price I'd really like to see him sign


Yeah, and he is 3 to 4 years younger than Franklin and Rogers.

Danno 03-17-2012 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 388643)
Yeah, and he is 3 to 4 years younger than Franklin and Rogers.

And Spags has proven he can coach up players to the next level.

FinSaint 03-17-2012 02:46 PM

Darn, Jason Jones signed with the Seasquaks a 1-year deal. That's the one DT I would've really wanted to see sign with the Saints, it'll be interesting to see how much he got in salary.

NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Jones agrees to one-year deal with Seahawks «

FinSaint 03-17-2012 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 388648)
And Spags has proven he can coach up players to the next level.


Very true, and I like the Jimmy Johnson connection.

buckblaster1 03-17-2012 05:03 PM

spags must see something in this guy to invite him down. may be he thinks he will work in the right system

CharityMike 03-17-2012 05:25 PM

All I know is I remember seeing pictures of a certain player on our D line right now when he got here and he looked like a HOUSE. Sadly..it hasn't translated to being a stud he looks to be. I'm leery with this dude.

FinSaint 03-17-2012 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 388669)
All I know is I remember seeing pictures of a certain player on our D line right now when he got here and he looked like a HOUSE. Sadly..it hasn't translated to being a stud he looks to be. I'm leery with this dude.


If you are referring to Rogers then you have to remember that he was brought in by GW who liked to have a big anchor type of a NT in his system, but Spags doesn't really have that same preference, IMO - he likes guys with mobility and versatility.

And Bunkley might just fit that bill.

CharityMike 03-17-2012 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 388678)
If you are referring to Rogers then you have to remember that he was brought in by GW who liked to have a big anchor type of a NT in his system, but Spags doesn't really have that same preference, IMO - he likes guys with mobility and versatility.

And Bunkley might just fit that bill.

Nope not Rodgers..think from the draft..

FinSaint 03-17-2012 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 388680)
Nope not Rodgers..think from the draft..


Oh, you mean Ellis.

I'd hardly call him a HOUSE at a (short) 6-1 and 307 lbs - maybe a condo?!

CharityMike 03-17-2012 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 388691)
Oh, you mean Ellis.

I'd hardly call him a HOUSE at a (short) 6-1 and 307 lbs - maybe a condo?!

Im not talking about hight..ok..a condo. A swole condo though :)

The point being..big and swole for nothing!

FinSaint 03-17-2012 06:38 PM

But to be honest and also a stickler for details (something that my gf points out to me I am far too often), Ellis was evaluated as being an under-sized DT by scouts at the time of his entry to the draft.

gandhi1007 03-17-2012 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 388706)
But to be honest and also a stickler for details (something that my gf points out to me I am far too often), Ellis was evaluated as being an under-sized DT by scouts at the time of his entry to the draft.

He was also the strongest DT in that year's draft if I remember right & heralded as a "workout warrior". It hasn't really translated on the field as a Saint, though.

CharityMike 03-17-2012 07:08 PM

Well actually... "Southern California DT Sedrick Ellis, considered one of the elite prospects in this month's NFL draft"- USA Today

He was only a inch shorter than Dorsey and weighed 12 pounds more.

"He was voted a unanimous All-American selection and the Pac-10 Defensive Player of the Year"

Like I said..big and swole for nutin

FinSaint 03-17-2012 07:51 PM

Yeah, well I don't know if he was more a product of the system or just over-hyped because of the whole USC and Carroll factor.

He was the best DT available like you said, but it just shows how all the evaluations in the world don't necessarily equate success on the NFL level, but it could be that the system(s) just weren't right for him to succeed.

I don't know, I had really high hopes for him, but it has never really materialized (yet).


Althoug, NFLDraftScout had Dorsey ranked in front of him:

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...xpos&order=ASC

jeanpierre 03-18-2012 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 388625)
Don't know how to feel either... he's been quite the underachiever throughout his career. He should have been a dominating DT.

His skill set has been better suited for college; however, Spagnuolo has traditionally used four down lineman to all get to the backfield as opposed to these really big behemoths who occupy space allowing another player to break in...

So he may do well here...

And he'd give the same production as Ellis with probably a better cap number

voodooido 03-18-2012 11:28 AM

Ellis needs cut or needs to restructure. No way he is worth 7.757 this year. MAYBE 3.5. Also Vilma (6.6) and Harper ( 6.25) need to be reworked. Taht alone would sign Brees and Lofton.

voodooido 03-18-2012 11:31 AM

and dont get me started on Bushrods 6.750 cap hit!

FinSaint 03-18-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 388848)
and dont get me started on Bushrods 6.750 cap hit!


Well, that is not so high when we are talking about LT money, and having two guards in the O-line making more than the LT is unheard of really.

The question is, do they want Bushrod to be a Saint beyond next season?

I they do, then they could try to restructure with an extension, but if not, then the existing contract is fine.

voodooido 03-18-2012 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 388855)
Well, that is not so high when we are talking about LT money, and having two guards in the O-line making more than the LT is unheard of really.

The question is, do they want Bushrod to be a Saint beyond next season?

I they do, then they could try to restructure with an extension, but if not, then the existing contract is fine.

I think Brown could take over at LT and his cap hit is around 745K. They have got to make room somewhere. Because they waited to sign Brees I think his price went up after CJ and now Mannings numbers.

hitta 03-18-2012 04:05 PM

Did we sign him and somehow I'm unaware of it? lol

Brodrick Bunkley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

|Mitch| 03-18-2012 04:11 PM

How did that happen? lol

Could Wiki be wrong? :doh:

hitta 03-18-2012 04:11 PM

Hahaha someone did that to Hawthorne's wiki page too :D

hitta 03-18-2012 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 388887)
How did that happen? lol

Could Wiki be wrong? :doh:

I know, it's just funny that adamant Saints fans go and change wiki pages :D

|Mitch| 03-18-2012 04:13 PM

I got excited for a split second... :mrgreen:

hitta 03-18-2012 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 388890)
I got excited for a split second... :mrgreen:

ha... when I first looked at it I was like.... what did I miss... but then I realized someone edited the page and the mods hadn't gone over it yet.

FinSaint 03-18-2012 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 388856)
I think Brown could take over at LT and his cap hit is around 745K. They have got to make room somewhere. Because they waited to sign Brees I think his price went up after CJ and now Mannings numbers.


He could if ever all of the potential and apparent skill, because of which they picked him out of the draft, should materialize into performances on the field.

His development has been hampered by all of the injuries he has sustained, most of which he was inflicted with in training and practices, so he is definitely not on the level at which he was projected to be at this moment in his career.

I sincerely doubt that he should/could be a day-1 starter at the LT position, and if nothing concrete materializes with his development and on field performances - he'll probably be gone come next off-season and he might even be before that if it weren't for his low cap hit figure.

And I wouldn't say that the Saints' FO waited for too long to get Brees signed, because he was offered an extension after the 2010 season, but the sides couldn't come to an agreement. Then the negotiations carried over to the 2011 season, but they were put on ice in apparent agreement by both sides, so that Brees could fully concentrate on the games at hand. After the season ended, they began the negotiations again, but Brees' side turned down the $18M/yr on average contract apparently wanting a $5M/yr raise to that figure and a front-loaded contract on top of that.

So, I would not say that the Saints dropped the ball on Brees' contract negotiations by waiting too long to get it done, because it wasn't really something that they had full power over in the first place.

Rugby Saint II 03-18-2012 05:58 PM

His team mates speak highly of him.......that's usually a good sign. Is he willing to be a bounty hunter? We need team players.:wink:

LBCutta 03-21-2012 01:28 PM

6 years in the league and 6 sacks....pardon me if im not excited

|Mitch| 03-21-2012 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KingCutta (Post 389995)
6 years in the league and 6 sacks....pardon me if im not excited

Let's see what Spags can do with him, we had to fill a spot left by Franklin and Rogers anyway.


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