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WhoDat!656 03-23-2012 10:08 PM

Correct me if I am wrong
 
Didn't the league send out a letter to all 32 teams saying if they were running a 'bounty' program, so stop it immediately?

After the scandal broke, several Giants players said that before the NFCC game against San Fran, they targeted a whiners players with a history of CONCUSSIONS.

-- After muffing one punt and fumbling a second in an overtime loss last weekend, San Francisco's Kyle Williams was subjected to an all-too-predictable barrage of Twitter hate and several death threats. Compared to that, what two members of the winning New York Giants recklessly boasted about after the game sounded almost tame.

Almost.

"The thing is, we knew he had four concussions, so that was our biggest thing, was to take him outta the game," said Jacquian Williams, who forced the second fumble, in overtime, to set up New York's game-winning field goal.

"He's had a lot of concussions," said Devin Thomas, who recovered both fumbles. "We were just like, `We gotta put a hit on that guy.'" Later in the same interview, he told the Newark Star-Ledger that teammate and backup safety Tyler Sash "did a great job hitting him early and he looked kind of dazed when he got up. I feel like that made a difference and he coughed it up."

That the Giants targeted a vulnerable opponent like Kyle Williams hardly qualifies as news, nor even that they zeroed in on his head. Those tactics, despite all the attention advancing science has focused on the dangers of concussions, were part of football long before helmets became mandatory. More troubling, but hardly news, either, is the implication that it was part of the Giants' game plan, something that was discussed in the film room or a special-teams meeting among the players, with or without input of the blessing of the coaching staff. It wouldn't be the first time that happened, either.

No, the surprising thing is that Thomas and Jacquian Williams came right out and said it.

The few Giants who were available at the team's practice facility Tuesday did their best to walk those statements back.

Kyle Williams Concussions: Giants Targeted 49ers Player Due To Previous Head Injuries

Looks like the Giants lied to Goodell as well; is Coughlin going to be suspended for a year?

|Mitch| 03-23-2012 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 391803)
Looks like the Giants lied to Goodell as well; is Coughlin going to be suspended for a year?

What do you think?

WhoDat!656 03-23-2012 10:16 PM

I don't know how to post with sarcasm!

burningmetal 03-23-2012 10:23 PM

He sure did send out that letter... And that is yet another reminder of how this whole thing has been a witch hunt, my friend.

No matter what the media and smart ass fans around the league try to say about the Saints deserving this, their teams deserve no less. This is getting more and more aggravating.

BGWhoDat 03-23-2012 10:28 PM

It's hard to tell if the NFL is mad for us targeting opponents or paying for targeting opponents, because either way both are going against player safety.

Now THIS is different than the Packers situation..

I can see Goodell doing something here..

WhoDat!656 03-23-2012 10:29 PM

And what makes the Giants 'bounty' even worse is that they targeted a player with a history of concussions.

And preventing concussions is what the league SAID they wanted to prevent/lessen.

burningmetal 03-23-2012 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 391815)
And what makes the Giants 'bounty' even worse is that they targeted a player with a history of concussions.

And preventing concussions is what the league SAID they wanted to prevent/lessen.

Yep, and as another poster mentioned earlier, he started on this player safety crap after retired players started filing lawsuits... badell only reacts when he's mad or facing legal action. There is no concerted effort to make the game safe.

WhoDat!656 03-23-2012 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 391820)
Yep, and as another poster mentioned earlier, he started on this player safety crap after retired players started filing lawsuits... badell only reacts when he's mad or facing legal action. There is no concerted effort to make the game safe.

And he STILL wants an 18 game season, even though the players said they didn't want it and wanted to drop 2 pre-season games.

burningmetal 03-23-2012 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 391821)
And he STILL wants an 18 game season, even though the players said they didn't want it and wanted to drop 2 pre-season games.

Exactly! I have been sick of this guy ever since he started making our teams travel to London to play in front of a bunch of tea slurping aristocrats who could care less about our version of football. Then that 18 game malarkey just put my anger over the top. Now this bountygate crap, AND, he is seriously considering trying to start a franchise in London and Toronto.

What was wrong with the league anyway, Roger!?... Just the the NFL's own cover-ups that it's now sluffing off on the Saints. We are the scapegoat.

WhoDat!656 03-23-2012 10:54 PM

"What was wrong with the league anyway, Roger!?... "

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

ChrisXVI 03-23-2012 10:55 PM

The Packers in 2007?!? Must be nice to be one of America's sweetheart's lol.

burningmetal 03-23-2012 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 391837)
"What was wrong with the league anyway, Roger!?... "

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Yep, it's always about money. At the risk of ruining everything sacred about our game (like the fact that it IS our game, not any other country's). And all we keep hearing is how this guy "had to do this", and "he's trying to protect the values and integrity of the game". What a bunch of horse crap.

FinSaint 03-23-2012 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 391844)
At the risk of ruining everything sacred about our game (like the fact that it IS our game, not any other country's).


...and still you want to call the SB champions "World Champions."

Anyway, that's a very positive way of looking at the whole situation, and I commend you for it.

burningmetal 03-23-2012 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 391847)
...and still you want to call the SB champions "World Champions."

Anyway, that's a very positive way of looking at the whole situation, and I commend you for it.

To be honest with you, I think just super bowl champions is fitting, for the reasons I stated above. It isn't a world sport. If someone from another country wants to be a fan that's great, but it still doesn't make it an international sport. Goodell wants to make it such, and let's be honest, it would be a logistical nightmare to travel over seas and back every other week.


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