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WhoDat!656 03-27-2012 10:32 AM

Metarie lawmaker trying to help New Orleans Saints and the fans
 
A local representative from Metarie is at the State Capital in Baton Rouge trying to pass a resolution that would get the NFL to reconsider the suspensions recently handed out to the New Orleans Saints.

Representative Cameron Henry is attempting to pass House Resolution 50 with the Senate in order to get the NFL or more specifially Roger Goodell, to possibly change the penalties handed out just recently.

The resolution drafted by the local lawmaker contains some of the following points according to HomuaToday.com:
“The New Orleans Saints have produced countless exciting and magical moments.”


“The taxpayers of Louisiana have invested millions of dollars into the success of the Saints organization by supporting stadium improvements, practice facilities, and other incentives.”


“The sanctions faced by the team will likely have a negative economic impact across the Crescent City and the state as a whole.”


Payton is the “first coach ever suspended by the NFL for any reason.”


Metarie lawmaker trying to help New Orleans Saints and the fans

saintfan 03-27-2012 10:58 AM

Hell why not?

TheOak 03-27-2012 11:07 AM

Goodell: :"Ok reconsidered".. "no".... "have a nice day"

Beastmode 03-27-2012 11:26 AM

There's no turning back. It's done. And I seriously question the economics of it. How do the Saints impact the State as a whole as opposed to one region. Many People in BR don't even follow the Saints. Same goes for up north or close to the TX border. I would even say the Saints have a negative impact on those areas since tax dollars are not spread out.

TheOak 03-27-2012 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 393057)
There's no turning back. It's done. And I seriously question the economics of it. How do the Saints impact the State as a whole as opposed to one region. Many People in BR don't even follow the Saints. Same goes for up north or close to the TX border. I would even say the Saints have a negative impact on those areas since tax dollars are not spread out.

Here I will break it down for you. Unlike states like Texas, Florida,and New York that have two teams for a state the Saints are one team for multiple states in the gulf coast.

Regional States with no teams
Mississippi - Tons of fans
Alabama - Tons of fans
Arkansas - Tons of fans

States with teams:
For every two Texans fans in Houston there is a Saints fan.
Dallas...they can just go to hell. With Jerry.

Ok so you have a mental picture of the Saints fan base.
Now here is where the $ comes in.
Every jersey, bumper sticker, t-shirt, etc sold in stores like Academy etc generates tax dollars for that city/state

When fans travel to close "away" games that generates plane tickets, motel rooms, fuel bought, food.

Home games.... people travel from home to New Orleans to see the games, fuel sales, etc...

Sounds small and moot? Other than ticket sales and profits from merchandise that is all the Saints generate for New Orleans.... but it is not so small and moot, the "attraction" and tax revenue is why the city of New Orleans will spend millions on the Super Dome.

AsylumGuido 03-27-2012 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 393057)
There's no turning back. It's done. And I seriously question the economics of it. How do the Saints impact the State as a whole as opposed to one region. Many People in BR don't even follow the Saints. Same goes for up north or close to the TX border. I would even say the Saints have a negative impact on those areas since tax dollars are not spread out.

The Saints are quite big up here in northwest Louisiana.

Beastmode 03-27-2012 12:40 PM

"Every jersey, bumper sticker, t-shirt, etc sold in stores like Academy etc generates tax dollars for that city/state."


Yes, exactly my point..for that city, meanwhile the money to remodel/improve the SD and give the Saints tax breaks comes from the State. The Saints do have a positive impact financially, but it's been discussed on here before that it's about the same as couple big box stores as far as tax revenue is concerned. Also consider the big events like the Sugar Bowl and SB are events granted off of New Orleans rich culture and unique atmosphere. Even without the Saints those events still happen.

Look, I love the Saints but my point is a politican is using this situation for his own gain. He knows there is nothing that can be done except get his name in the paper and the next ballot people will think, hey he was fighting for the Saints. Yeah right.

AsylumGuido 03-27-2012 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 393078)
"Every jersey, bumper sticker, t-shirt, etc sold in stores like Academy etc generates tax dollars for that city/state."


Yes, exactly my point..for that city, meanwhile the money to remodel/improve the SD and give the Saints tax breaks comes from the State. The Saints do have a positive impact financially, but it's been discussed on here before that it's about the same as couple big box stores as far as tax revenue is concerned. Also consider the big events like the Sugar Bowl and SB are events granted off of New Orleans rich culture and unique atmosphere. Even without the Saints those events still happen.

Look, I love the Saints but my point but is a politican is using this situation for his own gain. He knows there is nothing that can be done except get his name in the paper and the next ballot people will think, hey he was fighting for the Saints. Yeah right.

Actually, you are wrong on one point. The Superbowls would not occur without the Saints. The SB can only be held in an NFL city.

NOS2SB 03-27-2012 12:52 PM

This won't work. Appeal may though.

Halo 03-27-2012 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 393078)
"Every jersey, bumper sticker, t-shirt, etc sold in stores like Academy etc generates tax dollars for that city/state."


Yes, exactly my point..for that city, meanwhile the money to remodel/improve the SD and give the Saints tax breaks comes from the State. The Saints do have a positive impact financially, but it's been discussed on here before that it's about the same as couple big box stores as far as tax revenue is concerned. Also consider the big events like the Sugar Bowl and SB are events granted off of New Orleans rich culture and unique atmosphere. Even without the Saints those events still happen.

Look, I love the Saints but my point but is a politican is using this situation for his own gain. He knows there is nothing that can be done except get his name in the paper and the next ballot people will think, hey he was fighting for the Saints. Yeah right.


Beastmode, the City of New Orleans produces billions of dollars in tax revenue for the State of La. (approximately $5 billion dollars per year)

After the politicians have hold of those revenues that they send back to their home districts outside of New Orleans, the City of New Orleans sees less than 10% of state generated tax income.

The local city tax accounts for an additional 20%, of that the state of La takes off the top of local tax. 30% of the City's total income is generated from Travel & Tourism.

Remember travel and tourism is the state's biggest industry, and New Orleans is the destination.

Just sayin...

jeanpierre 03-27-2012 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 393041)
A local representative from Metarie is at the State Capital in Baton Rouge trying to pass a resolution that would get the NFL to reconsider the suspensions recently handed out to the New Orleans Saints.

Representative Cameron Henry is attempting to pass House Resolution 50 with the Senate in order to get the NFL or more specifially Roger Goodell, to possibly change the penalties handed out just recently.

The resolution drafted by the local lawmaker contains some of the following points according to HomuaToday.com:
“The New Orleans Saints have produced countless exciting and magical moments.”


“The taxpayers of Louisiana have invested millions of dollars into the success of the Saints organization by supporting stadium improvements, practice facilities, and other incentives.”


“The sanctions faced by the team will likely have a negative economic impact across the Crescent City and the state as a whole.”


Payton is the “first coach ever suspended by the NFL for any reason.”


Metarie lawmaker trying to help New Orleans Saints and the fans

I don't have a problem with an elected official stating his displeasure...

I DO have a problem with an elected official who's more concerned with something like this Bountygate issue instead of working on the government to keep it smaller and to spend no more than its reasonable revenues...

Beastmode 03-27-2012 01:22 PM

I wasn't aware of the SB being in a team city. I'm also not a tax expert but from everything I've read the last couple of decades the impact isn't as large as most believe. Rep Cameron Henry needs to find something more constructive to do with his service than fighting this lost battle. How about fighting for more tax revenue from oil and gas that the Feds steal from us or going after BP in his backyard and their eagerness to tie things up in court for 10 years.

TheOak 03-27-2012 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 393078)
"Every jersey, bumper sticker, t-shirt, etc sold in stores like Academy etc generates tax dollars for that city/state."


Yes, exactly my point..for that city, meanwhile the money to remodel/improve the SD and give the Saints tax breaks comes from the State. The Saints do have a positive impact financially, but it's been discussed on here before that it's about the same as couple big box stores as far as tax revenue is concerned. Also consider the big events like the Sugar Bowl and SB are events granted off of New Orleans rich culture and unique atmosphere. Even without the Saints those events still happen.

Look, I love the Saints but my point is a politican is using this situation for his own gain. He knows there is nothing that can be done except get his name in the paper and the next ballot people will think, hey he was fighting for the Saints. Yeah right.

Ikea does not fill motels. Nor generate alcohol sales on Burbon Street... I am up for debating the Saints value to New Orleans in comparison to a few big box stores.

Add the charitable donations from the players and coaches... I have yet to see anyone's children running around with ikea jerseys on.

The "total" ROI on the Saints has yet to be mapped from what it sounds like.

Add the post Katrina era and the renewed vigor in the city that you can not put a $ value on and there is tremendous value in the Saints that has yet to be realized.

RockyMountainSaint 03-27-2012 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 393089)
I don't have a problem with an elected official stating his displeasure...

I DO have a problem with an elected official who's more concerned with something like this Bountygate issue instead of working on the government to keep it smaller and to spend no more than its reasonable revenues...

I wish I could use all of my likes for the next year on this post jeanpierre!

alexonfyre 03-27-2012 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 393089)
I don't have a problem with an elected official stating his displeasure...

I DO have a problem with an elected official who's more concerned with something like this Bountygate issue instead of working on the government to keep it smaller and to spend no more than its reasonable revenues...

While I agree with the sentiment, I think it is misplaced. Just because this issue has more publicity doesn't mean he is working on this instead of the other issues. And if this bountygate penalty hurts the city economically, then New Orleans will come even closer to defaulting (and we are already on the razor's edge,) and could have VERY real consequences for all of us.
I doubt that it will, since it seems that most of the fans are rallying instead of abandoning, but the potential is there, and as a politician I would be worried about it on behalf of my constituency too. Let's please not hang this guy until he does something truly ridiculous....like try to call a hearing in the Senate to investigate the whole issue.

JimmyB1775 03-27-2012 04:39 PM

I didn't even read the responses. I will as soon as I send this post.

This resolution is toothless. Almost all resolutions are toothless. What we need is a bill. A bill preventing Roger Goodell from visiting the great state of Louisiana because we can't guarantee his personal safety while here.

skymike 03-27-2012 05:37 PM

Normally, I dont think politicians should bring sports issues into government business, but if you think about it, this does make sense.

If you punish the Saints & affect their ability to compete, you do hurt New Orleans. If you hurt New Orleans, you also hurt Louisiana. (see explanations of tax revenues posted above.)

I know how much money we spend traveling to New Orleans from Houston
during football season, and we're just two people.

As a season ticket holder, this punishment also punishes me. It would make a lot more sense to just fine the guys involved, not punish me, you,
New Orleans, and Louisiana.

Rock on, dude.

Beastmode 03-27-2012 06:15 PM

"The sanctions faced by the team will likely have a negative economic impact across the Crescent City and the state as a whole.”

So what happens if the penalties stick (which they will) and the Saints get deep in the playoffs or SB for that matter. The resolution would have had no impact and neither would the penalties. I so hope this happens!

alexonfyre 03-27-2012 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 393185)
"The sanctions faced by the team will likely have a negative economic impact across the Crescent City and the state as a whole.”

So what happens if the penalties stick (which they will) and the Saints get deep in the playoffs or SB for that matter. The resolution would have had no impact and neither would the penalties. I so hope this happens!

And what happens if there are no more financial crises like 2007? That would be great, but its no excuse not to try to fix the problems.

saintsfan1976 03-27-2012 07:01 PM

Must be election season

Halo 03-28-2012 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyB1775 (Post 393164)
This resolution is toothless. Almost all resolutions are toothless.


Quote:

What we need is a bill. A bill preventing Roger Goodell from visiting the great state of Louisiana because we can't guarantee his personal safety while here.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2GOpCDHY8o.../alligator.jpg
I'M JUST A BILL.... SOMEDAY, I MIGHT BECOME A LAW

saintfan 03-28-2012 06:35 PM

That toothless dude made me spit skoal on my monitor. Damn this website. LOL


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