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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by ratchoke99 Ok... I come in peace. I understand the need to defend the actions of your beloved team. But people here can not be that out of touch of reality. To really believe that this is some ...

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Old 04-05-2012, 04:27 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by ratchoke99 View Post
Ok... I come in peace. I understand the need to defend the actions of your beloved team. But people here can not be that out of touch of reality. To really believe that this is some sort of conspiracy and or it is normal practice in every level of sports, is in short asinine.

GW blatantly instructed his team to

1) aim for the knees of a player who had history of ACL problems.
2) aim for the ankles of a player who had a history of bad ankles.

Notice I did not mention anything about #10's or #21's 'concussions' because that can easily be misinterpreted metaphors. But how can you as human beings truly ignore, a small sample of which the NFL claims to have more of, malicious acts to pay others to deliberately injure another human being? And this was just ONE week versus ONE team. How long has this gone on and for how many teams?

I'm not here to debate whether or not Loomis/Payton's suspensions/punishments are too severe or not severe enough. But is it sad that people believe they should not be punished. They knew what was going on and did nothing to stop it over the span of multiple seasons.

In closing, if you cannot rationally distinguish between playing a rough and physical sport; versus deliberately trying to injure another human being. I truly fear for your children and for anyone who has you as their mentor, role model, boss, ect.
How you feel is 100% NOT relevant. Conspiracy? It depends on how you define it, but there are links on NFL.COM RIGHT NOW that will play audio of otherwise celebrated head coaches telling their players to go knock the other guy out.

This whole thing is about protecting the league's money, not the player's safety. You're delusional if you thing any other thing. Period.

And please stop spinning Nancy around on the merry-go-round so fast or we're going to call your mother.
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Old 04-05-2012, 04:28 PM   #42
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Go away, Troll. This is an internal matter.

We'll take care of whatever team you come from when that time comes.

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My guess is that he's from the Falcons. I have been visiting other teams forums for the past couple of weeks and most are sympathetic with Saints fans over this. On the other hand, the Falcons forums are basically celebrating the whole ordeal.

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My guess is that he's from the Falcons. I have been visiting other teams forums for the past couple of weeks and most are sympathetic with Saints fans over this. On the other hand, the Falcons forums are basically celebrating the whole ordeal.

I don't blame them for celebrating. It's all they have. If I had to choose though between Bountygate and Vick I'd take Bountygate. Hell, I'd even take Bountygate over all those 4th downs that backfired.
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I don't blame them for celebrating. It's all they have. If I had to choose though between Bountygate and Vick I'd take Bountygate. Hell, I'd even take Bountygate over all those 4th downs that backfired.
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Im actually a niner faithful. Nice try though, in tryin to make it seem like i have some personal vendetta because your team won.

The personal attacks truly help prove my point.

This isnt about whether or not other teams supposedly do the same thing. Or whether or not someone did get injured.

Its about GW being such a subpar human being. That he actually paid someone to intentionally inflict serious injuries to another human being. They could have ended someones career.

I'm also not saying to NOT support your team, but what i am saying is that to try to sugar coat the situation or point fingers like its some world wide accepted culture is just sad.

You make yourselves look stupid trying to defend that notion. Ironically it was saints fans trying to claim niner fans as unclassy not too long ago.

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[QUOTE=ratchoke99;395412]Its about GW being such a subpar human being. That he actually paid someone to intentionally inflict serious injuries to another human being. They could have ended someones career.

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Agreed about the GW critique... but who did he pay to inflict serious injuries??? Name one Saints player that received money for that. You can't. The Saints were actually one of the least penalized teams last season.
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Old 04-05-2012, 05:50 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by ratchoke99 View Post
I'm also saying to not support your team, but what i am saying is that to try to sugar coat the situation or point fingers like its some world wide accepted culture is just sad.

You make yourselves look stupid trying to defend that notion. Ironically it was saints fans trying to claim niner fans as unclassy not too long ago.
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Its about GW being such a subpar human being. That he actually paid someone to intentionally inflict serious injuries to another human being. They could have ended someones career.

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Agreed about the GW critique... but who did he pay to inflict serious injuries??? Name one Saints player that received money for that. You can't. The Saints were actually one of the least penalized teams last season.
There isn't enough evidence for that as of yet. But to also ignore the fact that GW WAS indeed paying people to inflict injuries, is pretty naive to think no one received that money......

It has been proven and stated by the NFL that they were paying players to inflict serious injuries to other players. The NFL holds NO obligation to release WHO received that money as of yet, especially since no player punishments have been handed out 'yet'.

And please, don't try to misinterpret my post as gloating, or wishing harm to the franchise. I'm simply trying to bring to the attention to the NO fan-base, that trying to defend the acts that GW has been accused and proven of doing, is just ignorant and classless.
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Cool story bro... I could play that game all day. And read the article, it stats FANS, not ONLY Niner fans.

Furthermore, the battle of the bay is not accurately or ever will be accurately reported on. That shooting was between two Raider fans and was GANG related. Not SPORTS related.

Lets not bring up old arguments though. Lets stay on topic and talk about the Mob boss of a defensive coordinator you have ok?
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There isn't enough evidence for that as of yet. But to also ignore the fact that GW WAS indeed paying people to inflict injuries, is pretty naive to think no one received that money......

It has been proven and stated by the NFL that they were paying players to inflict serious injuries to other players. The NFL holds NO obligation to release WHO received that money as of yet, especially since no player punishments have been handed out 'yet'.

And please, don't try to misinterpret my post as gloating, or wishing harm to the franchise. I'm simply trying to bring to the attention to the NO fan-base, that trying to defend the acts that GW has been accused and proven of doing, is just ignorant and classless.
So there isn't enough evidence yet but you say he WAS indeed paying players and that it's been proven by the NFL??? Contradiction. Every team's defense has cash incentives for making big plays, but you're implying that Saints players DID commit personal fouls that injured other players and received money for it. I'm just asking who?
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