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saintz08 04-18-2004 12:08 PM

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Saints | Want Smith At Reduced Salary, Role - from www.KFFL.com
Sun, 18 Apr 2004 09:55:46 -0700

Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports the New Orleans Saints will ask LB Darrin Smith to reduce his $2.25 base salary and to diminish his role on defense in 2004. The Saints want Smith to play a situational role in passing situations because of his intelligence and cover ability.


Saints | Stinchcomb Bulks Up - from www.KFFL.com
Sun, 18 Apr 2004 09:54:54 -0700

Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints OL Jon Stinchcomb has increased his strength and body mass this offseason and now weighs 300 pounds. During his rookie season last year, Stinchcomb played at 285 pounds.


Saints | Stinchcomb To Remain at LT - from www.KFFL.com
Sun, 18 Apr 2004 09:54:03 -0700

Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints OL Jon Stinchcomb will work exclusively at left tackle this season. Stinchcomb's development was stunted after practicing at the tackle and guard positions during his rookie year.


Saints | Sullivan Overweight - from www.KFFL.com
Sun, 18 Apr 2004 09:52:45 -0700

Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints DT Johnathan Sullivan reported to the team's offseason conditioning program at 350 pounds, well above his ideal playing weight of 315.


DatFu 04-18-2004 12:33 PM

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maybe stenchcomb is far enough along that we aint gotta draft a OT next saturday

Danno 04-18-2004 12:33 PM

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Let me try this \"slam Haz\" agenda thing 08\'s obsesed with...
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Saints | Want Smith At Reduced Salary, Role - from www.KFFL.com
Sun, 18 Apr 2004 09:55:46 -0700

Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports the New Orleans Saints will ask LB Darrin Smith to reduce his $2.25 base salary and to diminish his role on defense in 2004. The Saints want Smith to play a situational role in passing situations because of his intelligence and cover ability.
\"HASLETT WANT LB\'S TO DIMINISH ROLES ON TEAM\"

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Saints | Stinchcomb Bulks Up - from www.KFFL.com
Sun, 18 Apr 2004 09:54:54 -0700
Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints OL Jon Stinchcomb has increased his strength and body mass this offseason and now weighs 300 pounds. During his rookie season last year, Stinchcomb played at 285 pounds.
\"HASLETT TRYING TO DEVELOP ANOTHER WEIGHT PROBLEM PLAYER\"

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Saints | Stinchcomb To Remain at LT - from www.KFFL.com
Sun, 18 Apr 2004 09:54:03 -0700
Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints OL Jon Stinchcomb will work exclusively at left tackle this season. Stinchcomb\'s development was stunted after practicing at the tackle and guard positions during his rookie year.
\"HASLET STUNTS DEVELOPMENT OF YET ANOTHER PLAYER\"


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Saints | Sullivan Overweight - from www.KFFL.com
Sun, 18 Apr 2004 09:52:45 -0700
Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports New Orleans Saints DT Johnathan Sullivan reported to the team\'s offseason conditioning program at 350 pounds, well above his ideal playing weight of 315.
\"HASLET\'S MICKEY MOUSE APPROACH CAUSES ANOTHER PLAYER TO BECOME TEAM CANCER\"

DatFu 04-18-2004 12:38 PM

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some of you guys need to switch to decaff, geez, your takin years off your lives over what whodat, saintz08 and saintfan are typing from their parent\'s garage apartment.

JimBone 04-18-2004 12:46 PM

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Are you really gonna blame Haslett for Sullivan coming in out of shape?
You have got to be kidding me...Sullivan doesnt live in Haslett\'s house...I dont even think he lives in Louisiana. You guys can find anything to bash this guy.

Chuck 04-18-2004 01:20 PM

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Are you really gonna blame Haslett for Sullivan coming in out of shape?
I\'m not sure what side of that arguement im on.

- A professional athlete should be able to control his on own weight, Especially with the money he makes, he probally has a nutritionist.

then you have this

- Why is it that Haslet has this problem. I dont here Parcells, Bellickeck, Fox and so on have this many cancers on one team. It seems like ever year we are a breeding ground for them.

chRxis 04-18-2004 01:26 PM

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i don\'t think the front office really cares about the draft prospects character or committment to the craft. they perenially overlook major flaws and quirks to draft underachievers.

Cadillac 04-18-2004 01:27 PM

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I dont here Parcells, Bellickeck, Fox and so on have this many cancers on one team. It seems like ever year we are a breeding ground for them.
Just because he came to camp overweight doesn\'t make him a cancer. His work ethic over the summer obviously wasn\'t what it should of been, but that reflects his maturtiy more than it makes him a \"cancer\".

And for big guys like that, 40 pounds can be gained and lost easily in a month, so I guarentee he\'ll be in shape by the time preseason comes around. Hopefully the guys we brought in, mainly Pease and Brian Young, will be able to break some of Sully\'s bad habits.

chRxis 04-18-2004 01:27 PM

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and if we do get lucky and draft someone decent, we trade them.

turbo_dog 04-18-2004 02:48 PM

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During his rookie season last year, Stinchcomb played at 285 pounds.
Did anybody see him play? I didn\'t.

Chuck 04-18-2004 03:25 PM

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Just because he came to camp overweight doesn\'t make him a cancer.
true, I guess im just paraniod about another Grady, Hand problem.

saintfan 04-18-2004 07:09 PM

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some of you guys need to switch to decaff, geez, your takin years off your lives over what whodat, saintz08 and saintfan are typing from their parent\'s garage apartment.
Now that\'s just funny...LMAO. :P

Boogro 04-18-2004 07:55 PM

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Stinchcomb is at 300 which seems right. Maybe the reason why be played both tackle and guard last year was due to Bentley and Jacox being injured a bit.


Maybe he was kind of forced to learn both position just incase someone went down with an injury after Jacox and Bentley were out. This is an opinion and also gives people something to think about. That\'s it.

no_cloning 04-18-2004 08:32 PM

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Does anyone know if Sullivan had this type of reputation in college? Or is this a new thing?
I don\'t know what he did in college, but when he finally signed his contract last year (July 31st) and reported to camp, he was not ready to go and he took quite some time to get used to training camp speed. Or that\'s what I seem to remember.

JimBone 04-18-2004 09:45 PM

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There are very few guys in any draft that are no-risk type players. You never know what is gonna happen when you give a 21 year old kid 7 million dollars. It is not Haslett\'s fault and anyone who thinks it is has some rethining to do...Hell, if someone gave me 7 million dollars, i would buy a 7 million dollar car. I would not be a good investment for any franchise.

7 million dollars is overrated.

chRxis 04-18-2004 09:52 PM

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i feel the same way jimbone... it\'s hard to expect any young, immature guy to make mature choices... he\'s getting paid a lot of money and with that he should make better choices, but that\'s in a perfect world. these guys aren\'t in college anymore, they don\'t have much authority (besides coach during the season), so it is hard to imagine these 20-somethings to make the best choices for the \"big picture\".

JimBone 04-18-2004 09:55 PM

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OK..we both agree that it is not Hasletts job to babysit this guy in the offseason. I am sure that they are told what to do in the offseason to make sure they will be ready when the season rolls around...some guys take care of themselves, some of them dont. It is kind of hard to tell which guys will do the right thing.

chRxis 04-18-2004 10:01 PM

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well, as an adult you are presumed to be able to make the right choices for the situation at hand. some do well at this, some don\'t. if you aren\'t mentally apt to making the right choices for yourself then you come to camp weighing 25-35 lbs. more than you need to. but its tough on these \"kids\" b/c they are let go in the offseason on their own to do as they want with minimal responsibility (eat right, work out, study play book, etc.)

JimBone 04-18-2004 10:05 PM

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maybe they should all move into Hasletts house. That way he can take care of them day in and day out.

saintz08 04-19-2004 12:29 AM

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some of you guys need to switch to decaff, geez, your takin years off your lives over what whodat, saintz08 and saintfan are typing from their parent\'s garage apartment.
That is almost as funny as the little boy who wrote it .

I will have too pay extra attention too his posts ... ;)

Chuck 04-19-2004 09:24 AM

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not Hasletts job to babysit this guy in the offseason.
But I want to see what Haslet, Pease, or if any player is going to do anything about it, I don\'t want them to have the attitude that its just some 21 year old kid. I want the smack down put on him.

oh yea

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That is almost as funny as the little boy who wrote it .

I will have too pay extra attention too his posts ...
Put that foot down baby, thats what im talkin about lol :P


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