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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I remember Kommisar Goodell, on the the day that the coaches penaltys were announced, saying basically, ALL head coaches were responsible for what was going on with their teams. Even if players themselves were having 'pay for performance' pools, the ...

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Old 04-06-2012, 08:34 AM   #1
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I remember Kommisar Goodell, on the the day that the coaches penaltys were announced, saying basically, ALL head coaches were responsible for what was going on with their teams. Even if players themselves were having 'pay for performance' pools, the head coach should 'know' about it and eliminate them.

By that reasoning, is Goodell going to suspend coaches when players fail a drug test? Because he has said, the head coach should know what is going on with his team.
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Old 04-06-2012, 08:41 AM   #2
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Well, Ricky Williams retired so clearly all drug issues have been removed from the NFL.
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Old 04-06-2012, 01:25 PM   #3
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I think Goddell is trying to apply corporate world overview to the NFL. Not a bad idea. But then the NFL itself then has to take a hit (pardon the pun) if they allow teams to continue in an "unethical" way over a period of time.

So if HC out is correct, then the RG out is also correct because it occured over a period o time under his "command"
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For that matter, if punishment is from the top down with zero regard for logic, the Goodell should suspend and fine himself for not putting a stop to the bounty program in 2009.
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Old 04-06-2012, 08:33 PM   #6
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For that matter, if punishment is from the top down with zero regard for logic, the Goodell should suspend and fine himself for not putting a stop to the bounty program in 2009.
He knew about it and was going to let it slide.......but since we continued and tried to cover it up he had to get down on us. Not about the actual bounty, Saintfan is right he needs to suspend himself because he knew about and it was under his watch.
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Old 04-07-2012, 11:28 AM   #7
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This, good point. It is really sad that there were virtually no penalties enforced upon the team/organization, who pretty clearly allowed this sort of thing to go on, or didn't do more to avoid situations or environments where it could happen. Sexual harassment is a really serious thing. If that had happened in any other workplace in America, you don't think some supervisors or management would have been called on the carpet for it?
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This, good point. It is really sad that there were virtually no penalties enforced upon the team/organization, who pretty clearly allowed this sort of thing to go on, or didn't do more to avoid situations or environments where it could happen. Sexual harassment is a really serious thing. If that had happened in any other workplace in America, you don't think some supervisors or management would have been called on the carpet for it?
This got me thinking, maybe Vilma's motivation against Favre isn't based on a bounty system but just a hardline stance against sexual harassment in the workplace.
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