WhoDat

Truth be told those are comparable numbers. I can\'t say that the scenarios are the same or that these players had the same level of talent on their teams that the Saints have had, but... I am willing to admit that the numbers look similar. Still, the man better put up this year.

saintfan

Well jeesh, Whodat, now I feel all warm and fuzzy. Ok not really, but you surprise me. We haven\'t been this close to agreement in...well suffice it to say it\'s been a while. :P

WhoDat

Contrary to your beliefs and posts on this board, I do not hold some hateful grudge against Jim Haslett. I would like to see the guy succeed b/c it would mean the team would succeed. I just see a lot of problems that lead me to believe that Jim probably isn\'t the right guy. I don\'t twist things to make him look bad anymore than you spin things to make him look good- I look at all of the evidence and form an opinion, same as you. We both see red Saintfan, red just equates to love for you and anger for me.

[Edited on 19/4/2004 by WhoDat]

\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. That’s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans Saints’ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse


\"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

saintfan

Dude, I know that deep down in your heart your being honest with what you believe. I disagree with you usually because of exactly what you posted above...there\'s something gay about it tho that bothers me, but I\'ll get over it. :P

I know you\'d like to see Haz succeed, but for all your twisted logic you can\'t see it happening. Jim has the tools to do it, and I think he\'s right on track. Time will tell.

Bottom line is that I do respect your opinion even when I disagree since there\'s usually fuel for each side of the debate. Nothing I love better than a good debate, and you\'re usually game. You\'re gonna eat some crow this year tho buddy...the Saints are makin\' the playoffs. You\'ll see.

C'mon Man...

iceshack149

saintfan: Moderator/instigator

I thought for sure that you would have included Jeff Fisher.

Head Coach
Jeff Fisher
Pro Career: Became the franchise’s fifteenth head coach on January 5, 1995 after closing his first campaign as head coach/defensive coordinator. He replaced Jack Pardee on November 14, 1994, serving the remaining six games as head coach.

Fisher is the winningest coach in the NFL during the last four seasons, compiling 44 victories, and is the winningest head coach in franchise history with 80 wins. Last year he became the fourth youngest coach (44) since 1960 to reach 70 regular-season victories (Don Shula, John Madden, and Bill Cowher).

His first four seasons?


1995 7-9
1996 8-8
1997 8-8
1998 8-8

"...it's good to have friends, no matter where they are."--JOESAM2002

saintfan

Guilty as charged ice, but 08 is still the master. :P

swamee

mr saintfan, if i may sir inject my 2 cents into whether haslett will be here after the 2004 season, without getting interupted by another moderator, suggesting i post on the \"all other post\'s board\"because for some reason or another, they may not deem it logical or sensible talk about the saints.....(after all, this is just the coach) i would like to say this...
falling short of anything other than a playoff appearance and out the door the first playoff game, i, myself sir, do not, see haslett returning....i think benson has given all required of him for his staff to go beyond that 1st playoff game and into the beginning of the promised land.....hopefully, to the promised land.....this draft indeed is important to many, for in it lies the hope of getting there, or the agony of defeat.....again........
now, off subject and pardon my french , but just what the hell is a moderator? and who is the head honcho? and where are the rules for moderators? i\'m sure many here would like to read them if they do exist. after all, should\'nt moderators practice what they preach? i await your answer sir, thank you........swamee

Euphoria

If we made the playoffs every year Haslett has been here then we would be screaming and complaining that he can\'t win the big one... and get somone who could take us to the SB...

Haz08

Haslett is the greatest coach this organization has ever had.

If he hadn\'t been undermined by Mueller, he\'d already have a superbowl.

iceshack149

Come on Haz08, Tomorrow is 4/20. Not today. Did you get a head start?


And this swamee feller?

He done smoked his mind out.