saintfan

These numbers are all from ESPN.COM, so you guys can validate 'em if necessary. I thought I'd take a look at two guys that have coached a team to the Superbowl and compare their numbers to Jim Haslett's over the first 4 years of their careers as a HC. Here's they they stack up. Judge for yourself. If I look at these numbers I come to the conclusion that Haz hasn't done so bad, but you be the judge. Grated, each coach has had different players to work with, and I guarantee Whodat's first comment will be that Haz has had the better players, but lets remember he's ALSO the guy (along with Gator and a few, select others) that doesn't think Haz has a clue in the draft room either. Anway...on to the numbers:

Parcells...first 4 years 83-86...he went 36-27 in 63 games...his career .pct is .582...In 16 years he's been in the playoffs 9 times and out 7, and in three of those 7 he was booted in the first round. In the first 4 yeras he was 5-2 in the playoffs.

Bilichick...first 4 years 91-94...he went 30-33 in 63 games...his career .pct is .521...In 9 years he's been in the playoffs 3 times and out 9. In his first 4 years he was 1-1 in the playoffs.

Haslett...first 4 years 00-03...he went 34-30 in 64 games...his career .pct is .531...In 4 years he's been in the playoffs 1 time and out 3. In his first 4 years he is 1-1 in the playoffs.

Maybe these numbers don't tell you a thing, or maybe Parcells has the edge in playoff wins (obviously), but the overall record for these three men is VERY similar. Haz is 4 games better than Bilichick and a mere 2 games off the pace set by the great Bill Parcells. Just something to chew on as the dog days drag on by.

chRxis

the big point is the playoff wins. this is what matters. i don\'t care if has-not goes .500 overall for his entire coaching career, but as long as he can consistently make the playoffs and WIN when he gets there, then i might start to warm up to him. i still think he needs to go though.

chRxis

know what has-not doesn\'t have that both tuna and belichick do have? a championship ring...

saintfan

Playoff wins can sway an opinion -- I couldn\'t argue that, but Bilichick did no better than Haz playoff-wise in his 1st 4 years either.

saintfan

That\'s very true...he\'s doesn\'t have a championship ring...yet.

[Edited on 19/4/2004 by saintfan]

Danno

Haz reminds me of a mid-round draft pick that did extremely well his 1st season, back down to earth his 2nd and underachieved in year 3 and 4.
The spotlight is now on him and this is the year that determines if he stays or goes.
Right now I give him a 50/50 shot at being here in 2005.

saintfan

I like the analogy Danno, and I agree. I think Haz could be gone after this year, but I don\'t think he has to win the Superbowl to stay either.

I almost forgot...Parcells didn\'t win a Superbown in his first 4 years either...just for what it\'s worth.

chRxis

if has-been and bilichick switched teams for this year (or even last year, for that matter), bilichick would have done better, not b/c of the team but b/c he\'s a better coach. and as far as parcells, he\'s amazing considering if haslett would have been HC in Dallas last year they would have gone 1-15, 2-14 at best.

chRxis

haslett will NEVER win the superbowl... he\'s just not that great of a coach. yeah, i like the analogy too.

saintfan

Maybe...and then again maybe not. I\'m just tossing some number up to see what ya\'ll think.