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WhoDat!656 04-17-2012 07:34 AM

Sean Payton told to call if he talks
 
Under the terms of his season-long suspension for his role in New Orleans' bounty program, coach Sean Payton is not allowed to have any contact with the Saints organization or anyone around the NFL, and if he does, must report it to league executive Ray Anderson, a source familiar with the suspension tells ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

Thus, when Payton's suspension began Monday, he essentially was cut off from every Saints employee and any coaching friend he has around the league until the day after the 2013 Super Bowl, when the suspension is scheduled to end.

Payton and Saints general manager Mickey Loomis have beach houses about one mile apart from each other in Florida. They cannot, by the NFL's law, say hello to each other on the beach without Anderson being informed of it.

The NFL's investigation into the Saints found that Payton initially lied about the existence of a bounty program and instructed his defensive assistants to do the same.

The Saints have been fined $500,000 and stripped of two second-round draft picks. Loomis is suspended for the first eight games of the upcoming season, while interim head coach Joe Vitt -- who took over that role Monday -- will be barred for the first six regular-season games.

Former Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, who oversaw the bounty system in which opponents were targeted for hits that could sideline or injure them, is suspended indefinitely. He left New Orleans in January to become defensive coordinator in St. Louis.

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell is expected to soon punish Saints players for their roles in the program. Between 22 and 27 current and former Saints defenders were involved, according to the league investigation.

Meanwhile, quarterback Drew Brees says there was no real progress when the NFL Players Association and the league discussed the bounty program at the league's offices Monday.

"We didn't get any meaningful evidence, or any meaningful truth or facts," Brees told NFL.com after the meetings

New Orleans Saints' Sean Payton barred from all league contact, source says - ESPN

neugey 04-17-2012 12:46 PM

Perhaps they should just have Sean cryogenically frozen in the NFL league office, supervised 24-7 by armed guards and then they can unthaw him the night after the Super Bowl. That way Sean doesn't lose a year of his life and can't be accused of any contact with the team.

Rugby Saint II 04-17-2012 01:02 PM

You never call.......you never write.

UK_WhoDat 04-17-2012 02:50 PM

Are they allowed to send Christmas cards to each other?

Can their wives do the talking instead for them?

Speedy Ron 04-17-2012 03:17 PM

i hope someone throws a flaming bag of $#!t at goodell when he comes here for the superbowl. or at least puts pubes in his meals

TheOak 04-17-2012 03:28 PM

As I posted in another thread....

This is quite a paradox... In fact, him calling the League to report a violation, is violating his suspension... The infinite reporting circle.

pinch 04-17-2012 03:38 PM

An Option?
 
If I were Payton I'd create a YouTube channel and start my own weekly breakdown of Saints games. The videos would be there for everyone to view, so technically this wouldn't be communicating with anyone in particular, right?

SaintsBro 04-17-2012 03:54 PM

I've said this before, but I want them to put Payton up on the Jumbotron inside the Dome in the 3rd quarter break each week, to do the weather instead of Bob Breck. C'mon, make it happen Loomis!

gandhi1007 04-17-2012 04:38 PM

I have a feeling that wherever Comrade Goodell eats in New Orleans, it will be a very "special" meal. ;-)

halloween 65 04-17-2012 05:03 PM

A NFL head coach with contacts in every circle he has set himself for years is impossible to have no contact with. Maybe he should be stranded on an island with the crew of the USS Minnow.

neugey 04-17-2012 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 398360)
A NFL head coach with contacts in every circle he has set himself for years is impossible to have no contact with. Maybe he should be stranded on an island with the crew of the USS Minnow.

Does Sean prefer the Ginger or Maryann type LOL

CharityMike 04-17-2012 05:40 PM

Whats even worse is he can't even go to a college football game!! How sad is that!!

ScottF 04-17-2012 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 398367)
Whats even worse is he can't even go to a college football game!! How sad is that!!

He can't go to an NFL game. He isn't just suspended from Saints games, but all games. I really question the constitutionality of a suspension that also limits his ability to get another job. Obvious he will not be working for the NFL network or fox

CharityMike 04-17-2012 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 398376)
He can't go to an NFL game. He isn't just suspended from Saints games, but all games. I really question the constitutionality of a suspension that also limits his ability to get another job. Obvious he will not be working for the NFL network or fox

Listening to 870 on the way home, they had Mortenson on it and he was saying that he can't go to ANY (Pro or College) games. No THIRD party contact.

If it comes to something to do with football, he is on house arrest basically.

jeanpierre 04-17-2012 08:14 PM

F**k It - No more messing around...

...we send Jules Winnfield, with Luca Brasi, Feech LaManna, & Joel Cairo to see explain it to Rodge...

saintfan 04-18-2012 01:33 AM

This is the bull****.

TheOak 04-18-2012 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 398360)
A NFL head coach with contacts in every circle he has set himself for years is impossible to have no contact with. Maybe he should be stranded on an island with the crew of the USS Minnow.

Does he have time to participate in a season of Survivor Cocodrie?

Beastmode 04-18-2012 07:47 AM

Does that include Canadian Football? That's what I'd do, go scout talent in another league or coach. I'm sure though he can't do that either.

TheOak 04-18-2012 12:09 PM

How is it that he can not attend a College Game?

Did the NFL cancel his subscription to his DirecTV NFL package also?

SaintsBro 04-18-2012 12:44 PM

I hate to go all Tin Foil Hat with this, but if you ask me, I feel like this is all a SET UP so they can BUST Payton for some other infraction, and tack on EXTRA to his suspension...

He can't have contact with the team, okay -- what about a phone call congratulating Drew Brees on beating Johnny Unitas' record when that happens, for instance. Is that allowed? Do they then cross reference the call by dragging in Drew to the league offices and interviewing him, asking if Payton talked about game plans or anything else? What if someone like Jeremy Shockey calls him out of the blue? He can't pick up? It's just crazy.

This whole thing is designed to set up an untenable, unsustainable position for Payton, with such ticky-tacky enforcement that it can't help but be broken. They are playing GOTCHA with him.

I mean fer crying out loud, Payton's got a beach house just down the beach from Loomis in Florida... is he not allowed to go jogging there, while they're both suspended, in case he sees Loomis on his porch and waves at him? OF COURSE they're going to go to dinner together, get together and talk, watch a game together, or do something, and IT'S A TRAP!

And the Commissioner will nail Payton on something vague and unspecified, like that, and say he "broke his suspension" with "unauthorized contact," and then Goodell will not want to reinstate Payton after the year is up.

That's why they mysteriously changed Payton's suspension from a originally a finite year to "he can reapply in a year to maybe be reinstated."

I'm in tin foil hat agony over this, I don't like being this way, but it is REALLY starting to look to me, like a personal vendetta by Goodell against Sean Payton, and a whip-cracking, "when I say jump, you say how high" taskmaster type of thing. To try and get rid of him.

alexonfyre 04-18-2012 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pinch (Post 398328)
If I were Payton I'd create a YouTube channel and start my own weekly breakdown of Saints games. The videos would be there for everyone to view, so technically this wouldn't be communicating with anyone in particular, right?

Everyone including all of the coaches of all of the other teams.

ChrisXVI 04-18-2012 07:29 PM

How is this punishment even Constitutional?! Payton's pretty much put on house arrest and denied the ability to talk to any of his friends without getting Herr Goodell's consent. I'm sorry, but this is practically a criminal punishment by our legal system... how the hell does Goodell have this kind of power?! Giving one man all of the power over the NFL has to change.


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