Drew Needs to see what this is doing to the team
 

Before everyone harps on me about Drew deserves to be paid and etc

He needs to realize what is happening to our team, we have lost our Head Coach, Assistant Head Coach, GM mickey loomis, Best defensive player in both leadership and performance, and drew is nowhere to be seen because he wants his extra 6 mil.

I know hes holding out because he feels under appreciated with the contract we offered (19 mil, Yeah WAY UNDER APPRECIATED) but its time to get into camp.

We have no leaders running the training camps anymore, we will miss Sean Paytons fire on the sideline and the next best thing to Sean's attitude is sitting home watching us take hit after hit and thinking, i'm not going until i'm happy.

Its time to stand by your teammates drew, Your my favourite player and I love what you've done for our team, but right now your hurting us by not being there

We as fans can only watch and give opinions, but Emperor goodell is trying to take the leadership from our team and Drew's helping him by not being there

Had to voice my feelings guys

Well said. Unfortunately you just can't rely on athletes "doing a Joe Mauer" and taking less for the good of the organization. They often times tie "respect" to the number of zeroes on the contract. Less money is disrespectful to most, and that is the crux. I would certainly have thought that Drew would be a guy to consider a "hometown discount", but that's not the case.

He's probably looking closer at taking good care of his family first. Remember a million dollars doesn't go as far as it used too!:wink:

Loomis get this deal done. We need something to smile about.

You have to consider, there was also the matter of player suspensions. The Saints didn't know who was going to get suspended and for how long, so they had to wait and see if they were going to need money to sign extra people to cover the spots left by those suspended. They probably had a good idea that Vilma was going to be suspended, but the NFL said 27 players where involved. Now that they know how's suspended and how much money they have to work with, I'd assume the deal will get done rather quickly.

26 million doesn't go as far either.

The team, the fans, the State of Louisiana along with the Gulf States really need something to releave some of this crap that is going on with our team. The only thing that can ease the minds of the above mentioned, is Drew signing a contract.

Or Condon getting kicked in the nads on live TV.

The dust will settle. He will sign. Daniel getting alot of work in the meantime isn't a bad thing.

His contract has further reaching implications that just the Saints leadership....

1. His family
2. The most productive QB the last three years contract WILL effect other QB's contract values when they come up.
3. We have slots to fill now and there may be Cap space needed.Not 100% positive but you do not know till your 52 are finalized.
4. Condon gets his % and is the negotiator of this contract. Drew has to let him do as he sees fit.


Let this take its course and do not force it...

I don't want to say "Force" the issue. I for one, will be able to breathe a little easier knowing the whole Drew contract thingy is over and done with.

5 million dollars a part. 18 offered He wants 23.

I hate to be a jerk and defend Drew, but if the team needs leadership in the locker room or on the sidelines right now, then they need to PAY FOR IT. Nothing is free in this world. The Saints have enjoyed a VERY cheap ride on Drew's back for a long time now.

Now that the player suspensions are out, it will move forward again.

Being a leader means taking responsibility on your shoulders, motivating others, creating an environment where success can thrive. Leadership is a SKILL SET, just like throwing a football or having good footwork is a skill set. That's why generals make more in the army than privates. And being the proven best in your field means that you can command more for your services. That's why Jazz Fest pays Bruce Springsteen on the big stage so enormously much more than what they pay Sunpie Barnes or Rockin' Dopsie or the other acts on the smaller dinky stages.

For many years now, the Saints have been dining at Commander's Palace with Drew each week, and only paying family po-boy joint prices for it. (for those from out of town, Commander's is a very fancy restaurant in New Orleans.) That has to change. Think of it as, Drew has been floating some of his own money each week to cover the difference in the check at Commander's, so we could all eat together, the Saints have been paying less than they should have, and now he wants to split it more fairly, so that we can all keep going to Commander's Palace with him each Sunday.

A party at somebody's house is fun...but at some point later in the party, you will need to pass the hat and collect money, and send someone out to the store for more beer. The party started cheap, but now you have to pay to keep it going. That time for the Saints is now.

I do know what you are feeling, though. It is a tough time for everybody. Hang in there. Remember, Drew already stuck up for both Sean Payton PERSONALLY, and stuck up for the players in his role in the NFLPA, by first asking for the evidence and then saying he was disappointed that there was none given. Drew still loves you too, he just has to show it in different ways right now.

If I am a Saints player... and Drew is indeed my leader..

I would have to rethink my opinion of Drew if he did not hold his ground on his own contract.

Look I am as big a fan of Drew as anyone.... but you and DREW should also remember that 6 years ago NOBODY wanted him... We signed him for considerable money that would have been thrown away had he not been able to make it out....

So before we go off claiming Drew as some poor underappreciated soul here, lets remember the past.... Yes the Saints should recognize all he has done.... but perhaps a little discount on Drew's part might also be in order

Six years ago is a LONG freaking time in the past to be asking Drew for a hometown discount.... That debt was paid long ago... like maybe after the first NFC Championship game he took us to. I supposed it's true that NOBODY wanted him in 2006....no one else then at that exact precise moment in January/February when we were looking for a QB. But there can be NO DOUBT based on the last six years of play, that his shoulder would have healed up and he would have gotten a chance to play elsewhere eventually for somebody. It's not like the Saints signed him out of charity or pity, or did him a FAVOR by signing him as their starting first-string QB. It wasn't even really a "gamble" on the Saints' part to sign him. They knew exactly what he could do.

Would everyone please realize for a second that the Saints aren't actually allowed to offer him that much, even if they wanted to? They would have to cut some 2.5 million dollars in other players to meet that demand. So it isn't just money here, Drew and his agent are asking the Saints to cut other players entirely to satisfy their demands.

Drew is also laying the ground work to scratch the franchise tag in the next agreement.
They were trying to nix that thing in this CBA and were somewhat squeezed into accepting it.
Players don't like it and want it gone. They want to build an arsenal of documented player TAG
deficiencies for the next round of negotiations, and right now, Drew is one of the ring leaders.
There are a whole lot of other player's money tied to Brees' contract.
He's really not just being selfish.

Contract value reflects "present" situation... Yes the Saints game a lot then, he has also given one hell of a ROI.

Wasn't Drew the guy who organized practices last year during the lock out? If I'm not mistaken I think he paid for that too.
Still seems to me the guy is worth the money and they need to pay him.

I am as big a fan of Drew as anybody out there. He has been a source of inspiration for our team in leadership and performance and Certainly deserves to be paid what he is worth. In my eyes he is the best QB in the NFL at the moment. It is beyond my comprehension the monetary amounts. Why cant he just be happy to get paid around a million more than the top paid QB in the NFL. I certainly am no millionaire, but it seems to me like once you get past the first five million anything else is irrelevant. C'mon Condon, quit being a greedy leech and let Drew sign already. SapperSaint was right, Condon does need to be kicked in the nads on live TV

Now that the player suspensions are finished and bounty-gate is finally over, I'm expecting Drew to be signed shortly. That's just about all that's left on Loomis's punchlist...

I am all for DB getting paid... and when I say a home team discount I am saying meet in the middle.... take $21 rather than $23 (this assumes the Saints are offering 21).... That still sets the standard for being what he is.... THE BEST FRIGGIN QB ON THE PLANET........

But now is the time for him to get out on Airline Drive..... We need his leadership now more than ever....

Just give him a blank check, surround him with junior college talent and watch the results. How much money do we have to deal with under the salary cap? More complicated than just pay the man. Drew is great and makes everyone around him better, however, he certainly is not surrounded by crap!

Vilma's suspension frees up 4.5 million, I believe...

with all of the scandal after another coming out, all i need is news of drew signing and i will be satisfied

I agree. I would never bash Drew or anything like that, but this is getting bothersome. Not worrisome, mind you, as I do believe he'll get signed, but it really rubs me the wrong way that with everything going on, he would pick this time to disappear over a contract dispute.

In a perfect world the Saints would be able to give Drew anything he wants, and he would deserve it, but he has to know that they just can't give him that. If I am not mistaken, Peyton Manning is the highest paid quarterback in the league at 19.5 million a year. That means if Brees made 20 mil a year (or 19.6 if you want to be technical) he would be the highest paid QB. So what is it about 23 that he covets so much? Mickey Loomis is trying to keep his targets around him and build a defense to help him. What makes Drew think the Saints can just throw the kitchen sink at him? I love Drew to death, but this is not a good example he's currently setting. Ditch the agent and sign already!

It will be about 1.5 million saved now, because he had already restructured, but it's the same difference, basically.

I know we're getting a lot of bad news about the Saints and signing Brees would definitely be good news, but this really isn't that important I guess. We're talking about football and I'm as big a Saints' fan as anyone, but it is a game. The deal will get worked out.

The asking price of $23 isn't too far off from that. Manning (Denver) is getting a straight 5 year $20 million/year contract. A million more is $21 million. So the $23 isn't that far off from that.

Personally I don't think the dollars are the issue, but the structure. Drew/Condon are going to want this contract to be frontloaded, which will put a heavy burden on the Saints salary cap. The Saints will want to backload it, so that in the unfortunate event that Drew declines in years 4 or 5, they can move in a different direction without breaking the bank.

Fans (as always) just want it done. But the primaries in the negotiation need to be able to be mostly happy with the final outcome because once the contract is signed, then both will be on the same team for quite a while. So Drew should not take a lowball or a hometown discount, nor should the Saints overpay.

I expect that now that the player suspension damage is finally done, that it'll move much quicker. I'll bet that average will come in between $21 and $22 million a year, with a balance on the loading. Neither side will get exactly what it wants, but neither side will be screwed either. Which is exactly the way it should be.

SFIAH

Maybe they were waiting to see if Drew was going to get suspended...