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WhoDat!656 05-03-2012 02:49 PM

Packers, not Saints, raised Kurt Warner’s ire in 2009 playoffs
 
The Saints may have put a bounty on Cardinals quarterback Kurt Warner during the playoffs after the 2009 season, but Warner says it was the other playoff game he played that year — against the Packers — when he thought the opposing team was taking shots at his head.

Warner said on the Dan Patrick Show that in that year’s wild card playoff win over Green Bay, he felt like Packers players were intentionally trying to hit him high. It was actually the Packers who were complaining after that game that the officials missed calls on illegal hits to Aaron Rodgers, but Warner says the Packers were hitting him illegally, too.

But in the next week’s divisional loss to New Orleans, Warner didn’t think the Saints did anything beyond what’s normal.

“I played in a lot of games where they were really trying to take me out,” Warner said. “When I went back and looked at that game [against the Saints] I don’t ever remember thinking it was anything more than a tough playoff game. I don’t remember anything that was beyond the whistle. Even the big hit was legal.”

The Saints did hit Warner, and hit him hard, in beating the Cardinals that week, then they pounded Brett Favre the following week on their way to the Super Bowl. But Warner never felt he was taking unnecessary shots to the head from the Saints.

Packers, not Saints, raised Kurt Warner

KevSears 05-03-2012 03:24 PM

......and all you hear from those who were mega-critical of us is: crickets!!!!!

Supertek 05-03-2012 03:27 PM

Just helps show how much BS this whole thing is and was

saintfan 05-03-2012 03:28 PM

Well yeah, but this is just Kurts word against....oh...wait...

Beastmode 05-03-2012 04:08 PM

Go away Warner! Nobody forced him to become a blocker against 300lb players coming at full speed. Let's explore that for a minute...a stupid act of desperation up against superior physical strength and an uncommon desire to win the game. I wish he would stop coming out and saying it was a legal hit. We already know that from the moment of impact. Start telling reporters you made an awful decision, so awful in fact, he wish he would have never even attempted to block.

RaginCajun83 05-03-2012 04:19 PM

What I find funny in all this is that the NFL has yet to talk to Warner or Farve, brilliant move Goddell brilliant. I'm no lawyer but wouldn't it be a good idea to talk to the players that you think the Saints had targeted?

RockyMountainSaint 05-03-2012 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 403229)
Go away Warner! Nobody forced him to become a blocker against 300lb players coming at full speed. Let's explore that for a minute...a stupid act of desperation up against superior physical strength and an uncommon desire to win the game. I wish he would stop coming out and saying it was a legal hit. We already know that from the moment of impact. Start telling reporters you made an awful decision, so awful in fact, he wish he would have never even attempted to block.

I watched this today. Warner said that he should have been aware of the situation and it was on him. Said a bigger, stronger player made a good block.

|Mitch| 05-03-2012 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 403245)
Said a bigger, stronger player made a good block.

Bobby McCray knocked the slobber out of him, what ever happened to Bobby? If Roger is focused on just the the Favre and Warner hits, why has there been nothing mentioned about McCray?

RockyMountainSaint 05-03-2012 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 403246)
Bobby McCray knocked the slobber out of him, what ever happened to Bobby? If Roger is focused on just the the Favre and Warner hits, why has there been nothing mentioned about McCray?

I've watched the play a million times and I still contend that McCray could have hit him MUCH, MUCH harder, but pulled up.

WhoDat!656 05-03-2012 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 403229)
Go away Warner! Nobody forced him to become a blocker against 300lb players coming at full speed. Let's explore that for a minute...a stupid act of desperation up against superior physical strength and an uncommon desire to win the game. I wish he would stop coming out and saying it was a legal hit. We already know that from the moment of impact. Start telling reporters you made an awful decision, so awful in fact, he wish he would have never even attempted to block.

Warner wasn't trying to block anyone!!

He was trying to tackle the Saints defender that intercepted his pass.

A QB trying to make a tackle is like an old lady in a bar fight!!

Beastmode 05-03-2012 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 403245)
I watched this today. Warner said that he should have been aware of the situation and it was on him. Said a bigger, stronger player made a good block.

I wasn't aware he said that but I can't keep up with the number of interviews he makes regarding that hit, I know of at least three interviews but there are probably a dozen.

I respect Warner, as a person first, and 2nd as player but stop coming out and saying it was a legal hit. That is a fact and will remain so. Focus on why the hit happened. He threw the pick and then tried to get in the mix against superior size and strength. Nothing good can come out of that situation. So Bobby is suppose to gently nudge him out of the way when he is trained to take the QB down with authority. That is not going to happen on any team, bounty or no bounty.

Beastmode 05-03-2012 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 403245)
I watched this today. Warner said that he should have been aware of the situation and it was on him. Said a bigger, stronger player made a good block.

I wasn't aware he said that but I can't keep up with the number of interviews he makes regarding that hit, I know of at least three interviews but there are probably a dozen.

I respect Warner, as a person first, and 2nd as player but stop coming out and saying it was a legal hit. That is a fact and will remain so. Focus on why the hit happened. He threw the pick and then tried to get in the mix against superior size and strength. Nothing good can come out of that situation. So Bobby is suppose to gently nudge him out of the way when he is trained to take the QB down with authority. That is not going to happen on any team, bounty or no bounty.

RockyMountainSaint 05-03-2012 06:58 PM

This is from this morning's show.
He talks Saints starting at 1:50

Kurt Warner didn

Rugby Saint II 05-03-2012 08:09 PM

I'm fine with that.

alexonfyre 05-03-2012 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 403229)
Go away Warner! Nobody forced him to become a blocker against 300lb players coming at full speed. Let's explore that for a minute...a stupid act of desperation up against superior physical strength and an uncommon desire to win the game. I wish he would stop coming out and saying it was a legal hit. We already know that from the moment of impact. Start telling reporters you made an awful decision, so awful in fact, he wish he would have never even attempted to block.

Why would you attack a player that has come out on our side almost the entire time? Our allies are few and far between lately, if you hadn't noticed...

SaintGup 05-04-2012 08:06 AM

Does anyone else remember that, when Warner came back in, two or three Saints had a chance to really level him again but chose to pull up and even though contact was made, tried to hold him upright. If you can't remember and have the game and you should (shame on you if you don't), watch it and see...yeah, really looks like a bounty to me!

Dasidreidia 05-04-2012 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 403281)

A QB trying to make a tackle is like an old lady in a bar fight!!

If that old lady was Betty White they'd have their hands full.

Beastmode 05-04-2012 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by alexonfyre (Post 403356)
Why would you attack a player that has come out on our side almost the entire time? Our allies are few and far between lately, if you hadn't noticed...

How many times since this started has he gone on air regarding that hit..I know of 3 and I know there are more. It was a legal hit, everyone knows this fact so the Saints don't need his blessing. We also know there is no evidence of of a bounty program that he can shed light on.

He's not contributing anything of value to the discussion. In fact, it's making the public perception of boutygate worse because everytime he goes on three things are mentioned; the hit, the Saints, and bounties. I've had several fans from other teams tell me..yeah but the hit on Warner, that's what got the Saints in trouble. I would think the same thing if I was watching Warner being intervied with the sound turned low or off. Is he doing these spots for free? That what I want to know.

alexonfyre 05-05-2012 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 403574)
How many times since this started has he gone on air regarding that hit..I know of 3 and I know there are more. It was a legal hit, everyone knows this fact so the Saints don't need his blessing. We also know there is no evidence of of a bounty program that he can shed light on.

He's not contributing anything of value to the discussion. In fact, it's making the public perception of boutygate worse because everytime he goes on three things are mentioned; the hit, the Saints, and bounties. I've had several fans from other teams tell me..yeah but the hit on Warner, that's what got the Saints in trouble. I would think the same thing if I was watching Warner being intervied with the sound turned low or off. Is he doing these spots for free? That what I want to know.

Kurt Warner is the only player personally involved that works in the news media. All of his quotes came from his colleagues asking him about it on-air. If Brett Favre had gone to ESPN or NFLN then he would have just as many quotes. In fact, he almost does because the media did seek him out on multiple occasions and ask him. The reason it keeps coming up is because of the ESPN newsmakers, not Kurt. Chill out, dude.

Danno 05-05-2012 06:07 PM

I've heard Kurt on NFL radio several times and there isn't one single appearance that I didn't agree with him for the most part on every single queation he was asked.

This world needs more Kurt Warners.

RockyMountainSaint 05-05-2012 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 403789)
I've heard Kurt on NFL radio several times and there isn't one single appearance that I didn't agree with him for the most part on every single queation he was asked.

This world needs more Kurt Warners.

Ditto Danno!

Love the guy!

It shouldn't (because they are dumb-asses), but it irritates the hell out of me when I hear a talking head refer to him as a "borderline hof player"!

If Kurt Warner isn't a first ballot hof player, who is?

gandhi1007 05-05-2012 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 403830)
Ditto Danno!

Love the guy!

It shouldn't (because they are dumb-asses), but it irritates the hell out of me when I hear a talking head refer to him as a "borderline hof player"!

If Kurt Warner isn't a first ballot hof player, who is?

I agree with all of this except first ballot HOF. He's a HOF for sure, but there are many players with better stats, etc... that didn't get the 1st ballot nod.

RockyMountainSaint 05-05-2012 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gandhi1007 (Post 403831)
I agree with all of this except first ballot HOF. He's a HOF for sure, but there are many players with better stats, etc... that didn't get the 1st ballot nod.

And there are many more that did get voted in on the 1st ballot that were not deserving. Some were bad characters.

Warner's stats are worthy. Warner's character (as far as we know) is impeccable.

His story; cut by the Rams, Iowa Barnstormers, alone is legendary.

He and Drew are the most consistently accurate QBs that I have ever seen.

Beastmode 05-06-2012 12:34 AM

I like Kurt Warner, as I have stated as a person and player but this is my issue:

His opinion, even if he did believe it was an illegal hit, has no bearing on what is in question which is a bounty program. It was a legal hit and nothing he can say or do will ever change that. Then he believes the Packers were tageting him, ok, they said the same thing, his team was targeting Rogers. Again, another dead end topic with nothing to substantiate either claim.

He's brought on these shows to shed light on the subject but presents no useful information. Either you know something or you don't. If you don't then what's the point other than an ambulance chasing side show.

alexonfyre 05-06-2012 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 403846)
I like Kurt Warner, as I have stated as a person and player but this is my issue:

His opinion, even if he did believe it was an illegal hit, has no bearing on what is in question which is a bounty program. It was a legal hit and nothing he can say or do will ever change that. Then he believes the Packers were tageting him, ok, they said the same thing, his team was targeting Rogers. Again, another dead end topic with nothing to substantiate either claim.

He's brought on these shows to shed light on the subject but presents no useful information. Either you know something or you don't. If you don't then what's the point other than an ambulance chasing side show.

Have you ever watched Fox News or MSNBC? That is how entertainment news works, friend. They aren't trying to report facts and analysis, they are reporting drama and intrigue. It isn't Kurt Warner's fault, and for his part he could probably get a lot MORE out of it if he told them he felt threatened by the Saints, but he doesn't. Stop lashing out at the wrong people.


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