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Rugby Saint II 05-03-2012 08:20 PM

What is quite strong is the bad smell this has to it.

jeanpierre 05-03-2012 09:01 PM

Facing your accusers is a right of due process...

onebyone 05-03-2012 09:03 PM

We're all just supposed to take some random lawyer's word for it? Seriously?

The blantant efforts to keep from showing the so called strong evidence is pretty telling.

Beastmode 05-03-2012 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 403255)
CAN WE JUST MOVE ALONG!

I'm at the point where I don't care about the evidence anymore.....

I would be at that point but not until the evidence is presentend and examined in a REAL court of law. I actually care about this more than the entire NFL season. If they are proven guilty fine, but right now the NFL's methods are unfair and unjust and that is not a system anyone in this country should be judged by.

alexonfyre 05-03-2012 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 403333)
I would be at that point but not until the evidence is presentend and examined in a REAL court of law. I actually care about this more than the entire NFL season. If they are proven guilty fine, but right now the NFL's methods are unfair and unjust and that is not a system anyone in this country should be judged by.

This. I want to see the players and coaches involved get their right of due process satisfied by the US legal system....

I don't know if I really understood this saying until now but: "Our legal system is one of the worst, but its the best one we've got."

NOS2SB 05-03-2012 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 403205)
The NFL lawyer says the evidence is strong. Okay. Fine.

SHOW IT

Agreed. How can the players lawyers disagree when they don't have the evidence.

pinch 05-04-2012 08:06 AM

The more I think about this, the more I think that the NFL's trump card could be Greg Williams himself. What else could kick off Coach Williams 'pennance tour' like solidifying the NFL's case against the players?

One way or another it's going to come down to someone's personal account. I remember a SportsCaster (Adam Schefter?) saying that he saw this happen in person, but having someone like Williams point the finger could be the best evidence possible.

saintfan 05-04-2012 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 403333)
I would be at that point but not until the evidence is presentend and examined in a REAL court of law. I actually care about this more than the entire NFL season. If they are proven guilty fine, but right now the NFL's methods are unfair and unjust and that is not a system anyone in this country should be judged by.

This is where I'm living too. If guilty based on evidence provided to the people in question, then do your time. But right now I'm not willing to just be happy it's behind us. Not even close.

pherein 05-04-2012 08:25 AM

Mary Jo Whites statements are usual for counsel, but oddly enough still provide no evidence. In fact why is she speaking up for Goodell's position at all at this time?
Seems and odd thing to do, unless your trying to prevent Vilma from civil/legal action.
I mean what is the purpose of it. He was obviously told her to make these statements.
And her statement come down to this " Oh, believe me and roger, they are guilt"

Her motive to me are much more interesting than anything she said, we have all heard this before.

saintfan 05-04-2012 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by pherein (Post 403409)
Mary Jo Whites statements are usual for counsel, but oddly enough still provide no evidence. In fact why is she speaking up for Goodell's position at all at this time?
Seems and odd thing to do, unless your trying to prevent Vilma from civil/legal action.
I mean what is the purpose of it. He was obviously told her to make these statements.
And her statement come down to this " Oh, believe me and roger, they are guilt"

Her motive to me are much more interesting than anything she said, we have all heard this before.

It's the question I want so badly for a journalist (where is the NY Times - they LOVE this kinda stuff) to ask. You keep SAYING you have all this iron clad, damning evidence, and yet you refuse to show it. WHY?

I like that her participation is referred to on ESPN as an 'independent' observation. The NFL paid this woman. Uh...hello?


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