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RockyMountainSaint 05-08-2012 09:55 PM

Chris Carter offered bounties.....
 
“I’m guilty of it,” Carter said. “It’s the first time I’ve ever admitted it. But I put a bounty on guys before. I put bounties on guys. And the guys tried to take me out, a guy tried to take a cheap shot on me, I put a bounty on him, right now.”

“A money bounty?” Mark Schlereth asked.

“Absolutely,” Carter said.

“Protect me. . . . Protect me from him. . . . Especially if he’s playing a different position where I can’t protect myself,” Carter said. “I’d tell one of them guards, ‘Hey man, this dude is after me, man. Bill Romanowski.’ He told me he’s gonna me out before the game, in warmups. No problem. ‘I’m gonna end your career, Carter.’ No problem. I put a little change on his head before the game. Protect myself, protect my family. That’s the league that I grew up in.”

Asked whether he was the only one to do that, Carter was emphatic: “Heck no!”

Carter added that he has no regrets. “Matter of fact, if I see a couple of them dudes that was trying to cheap shot me walking through ESPN, I’d put a bounty on them right now.”

Carter explained that the bounty was “based on protection or big hit, excitement or helping your team win, it wasn’t to maim or hurt the dude.” And that sounds a lot like how the Saints would explain the use of bounties from 2009 through 2011, if any of them were to admit to it and/or if there were evidence of it.

Carter also said that he was in the Eagles locker room for the 1989 Bounty Bowl, and that he was present when former Eagles coach Buddy Ryan “put the bounties on the guys.” Carter said he disregarded those types of bounties, but other players didn’t. “I saw guys getting wiped out, guys going for the money,” Carter said.

Later in the interview, Carter said that bounties also were used by the Vikings to protect players like Randy Moss, Daunte Culpepper, and Randall Cunningham.

Carter’s remarks generally support the notion that bounties have indeed been part of the game for a long time before the Saints were caught using them. But the league has shown no inclination to look any deeper into history than the 2009 through 2011 Saints — probably because the league realizes that the rabbit hole runs far deeper than anyone realizes.

And so the NFL instead has opted to make an example of the Saints and to hope that, moving forward, no one “puts a little change” on anyone’s head before a game. Or during a game. Or ever.

Cris Carter admits to using bounties during his career | ProFootballTalk

MistaBigXXL 05-08-2012 10:07 PM

The perfect article.

You have an OG saying that he personally participated in a bounty program (offered money) and says that it is the norm in many locker rooms throughout the country. But the NFL doesnt want to admit that it is as widespread as it actually is, and thus the Saints will be the scapegoat for the league. Not cool.

lumm0x 05-08-2012 10:18 PM

Thanks for manning up Cris! It's nice to see some guys show their balls and give the league the finger. We're taking this hit for men like you not the hypocrites that gasp at the atrocity and hide behind their ignorance.

Beastmode 05-08-2012 10:48 PM

So we have pay for performace, pay for protection, but still no actual bounty participants...I see why Goodell got so frustrated and dropped a nuke on the Saints.

gandhi1007 05-08-2012 11:24 PM

Cris Carter has always been one of my favorite players. This just makes me like the guy more.

P.S.- This guy should be in the Hall of Fame, damnit!!!

SaintsRule11 05-09-2012 01:13 AM

Truly maddening that my beloved Saints are the ones being made an example of when this **** is endemic throughout the league. Pisses me right the **** off. I hate Roger Goodell and I hope he gets cancer and dies a slow, painful death.

jeanpierre 05-09-2012 05:28 AM

So it's okay for Chris Carter to have bounties, but he doesn't like it when the Saints have 'em...

He fits into ESPN perfectly...

Rugby Saint II 05-09-2012 12:20 PM

The league is beginning to get nervous. We are being vindicated a little at a time.

xan 05-09-2012 01:08 PM

I am not sure what CC's point is. If I were him, I'd have kept my mouth shut, because all he's done is blur what is already an ill-defined line.

His justification for putting a bounty on a player is "self defense." That's ok, to put a hit on someone who's going to hit you because he's supposed to, but it's not ok to put a hit on someone who's supposed to be hit.

I'm already twisted in my underwear trying to figure this out.

RaginCajun83 05-09-2012 01:20 PM

bill romanowski was on Dan Patrick later in the morning saying this was false. He did go on to say that Ronnie Lott once paid him 500 for a sack

GeauxForMore 05-09-2012 02:18 PM

So does this mean the Vikings need to have a asterisk on their Superbowl trophy like they been claiming we need to have..........wait they don't have......guess we can put a asterisk on the team. Lol.

FinSaint 05-09-2012 04:58 PM

One of my favorite Vikings players ever!

Moss owes a lot to Carter, because he really was a great mentor to him as a rookie.

This just proves the point further that this is something that has been going on in the league for as long as it has been around.

pherein 05-09-2012 06:21 PM

Way to man up Chris. The more guys that do this, the more the media has to take notice that its a league problem, and Goodell is making the Saints pay for their inaction sense Goodell has been in office.

Luda34 05-09-2012 06:34 PM

WHO GIVES A F$@K NOW EVERYONE IS COMING OUT THE BLUE SAYING THEY DID IT.Lets just move on from this bounty crap please.

pherein 05-09-2012 07:10 PM

Na, I like it. This is fuel for the team. The more logs on the fire the better.
I want the boys to be thinking we don't want a Superbowl, we just want to get to Goodell. Its great locker room material. :)
Get to the Super bowl and make him hand you the trophy.

st thomas 05-09-2012 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 404479)
The league is beginning to get nervous. We are being vindicated a little at a time.

i've been feelin it for a few days now. i 'm thinkin the tide is changing. people are fed up with this take it out on the saints bs. goodell has a big bank -roll he tried to get simpathy for the lock out when he cut off his pay i hope he has plenty to retire. :disgusted:

jeanpierre 05-10-2012 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 404536)
Moss owes a lot to Carter, because he really was a great mentor to him as a rookie.

Fin, don't mean to "mischaracterize" your words, but this idiot mentored Randy Moss?!?

How did that work out?!?

Wow, just, Wow!

iceshack149 05-10-2012 09:31 AM

Everyone knows that football is a violent game and bounties have been involved in the sport for years.

The issue here is that the NFL is trying to put an end to bounties and apparently (I don't know because the NFL wont release its supposed "earth shattering" evidence) warned the Saints to stop it and they didn't.

TheOak 05-10-2012 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 404690)
Everyone knows that football is a violent game and bounties have been involved in the sport for years.

The issue here is that the NFL is trying to put an end to bounties and apparently (I don't know because the NFL wont release its supposed "earth shattering" evidence) warned the Saints to stop it and they didn't.

Who tells 1 out of 32 children doing something to stop? Who stops something that all other teams are doing?

Its not safety, its not prosecution, its persecution.

QBREES9 05-10-2012 11:59 AM

Never really like Chirs Carter.

CheramieIII 05-12-2012 09:53 AM

It happens on every team every game, PERIOD and they know it. They might have opened a can of worms with this one.

FinSaint 05-12-2012 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 404648)
Fin, don't mean to "mischaracterize" your words, but this idiot mentored Randy Moss?!?

How did that work out?!?

Wow, just, Wow!



Well, he did a very good job mentoring him and helping him make the transition to the NFL level and style of play - I didn't mean anything about his character or better yet the lack of one.

You can't really argue against him having made an instant impact with the Vikings and Carter deserves credit for a lot of it, I know many of the then Vikes' staff members feel that way by the articles and TV shows I've seen about it.

I seem to remember the Vikes having been the NFL's #1 ranked offense in 1998 and Moss having been elected as the NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year while also making the Pro Bowl as a starter.

So, yeah, Wow!

SmashMouth 05-12-2012 12:15 PM

Chris Carter needs to be fired or suspended at least a year or his HOF credentials revoked .... if we are to be consistent, right?

FinSaint 05-12-2012 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 405117)
Chris Carter needs to be fired or suspended at least a year or his HOF credentials revoked .... if we are to be consistent, right?


He isn't in the HOF and maybe because of this, he'll never be.


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