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Old 05-09-2012, 10:39 PM   #11
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Here's Vilma's lawyer's request. He's like a pit bull.

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Here's what the counsel of #Saints LB Jonathan Vilma sent to the #NFL for the appeal (it's LONG): "We request the NFL to provide immediately the following in order to assure that resolution of this dispute not be delayed and that Mr. Vilma has a fair opportunity as quickly as possible to remedy the harm that is being done to his reputation and to his career:

1. All documents and communications evidencing a “pay-for-performance/bounty” program, including, but not limited to, any ledger, notebook, record or record book, payment slip, note or entry of any sort, or evidencing that no such “pay-for- performance/bounty” program existed and/or involved Mr. Vilma;

2. All documents and communications evidencing that Mr. Vilma established, or assisted in establishing, a “pay-for-performance/bounty” program or any other program in violation of NFL rules, or evidencing that Mr. Vilma did not have a role in establishing, or assisting in the establishment of, such “pay-for-performance/bounty” program;

3. All documents and communications evidencing that Mr. Vilma “pledged,” made or received payments of any kind resulting from an opposing player being carried off the field, i.e., “cart-offs,” including but not limited to any ledger, notebook, record or record book, payment slip, note or entry of any sort, or evidencing that Mr. Vilma did not “pledge,” make or receive payments resulting from an opposing player being carried off the field, i.e., “cart-offs”

4. All documents and communications evidencing that Mr. Vilma “pledged,” made or received payments of any kind resulting from an opposing player being unable to return to the game, i.e., “knockouts,” including but not limited to any ledger, notebook, record or record book, payment slip, note or entry of any sort, or evidencing that Mr. Vilma did not “pledge,” make or receive payments resulting from an opposing player being unable to return to the game, i.e., “knockouts”;

5. All documents and communications evidencing that Mr. Vilma “pledged,” made or received payment of any kind resulting from an opposing player being injured, including but not limited to any ledger, notebook, record or record book, payment slip, note or entry of any sort, or evidencing that Mr. Vilma did not “pledge,” make or receive payments resulting from an opposing player being injured;

6. All documents and communications evidencing that Mr. Vilma “targeted” an opposing player in any manner that would violate NFL rules, or evidencing that Mr. Vilma did not “target” an opposing player in any manner;

7. All documents and communications evidencing that Mr. Vilma engaged “in unsafe and prohibited conduct intended to injure players” or did not engage “in unsafe and prohibited conduct intended to injure players”;

8. All documents and communications evidencing that Mr. Vilma “participate[d] in a program that potentially injured opposing players,” or evidencing that Mr. Vilma did not “participate[d] in a program that potentially injured opposing players”;

9. All documents and communications evidencing that Mr. Vilma “embraced” a “pay-for- performance/bounty” program or any other program in violation of NFL rules, or evidencing that Mr. Vilma did not “embrace” a “pay-for-performance/bounty” program or any other program in violation of NFL rules;

10. All documents and communications evidencing that Mr. Vilma offered, paid or intended to pay $10,000, or any amount of money, to any player for knocking Kurt Warner, Brett Favre, and/or any other player, out of the 2009 Divisional Playoff Game, 2010 NFC Championship Game, or any other game, or evidencing that Mr. Vilma did not engage in such activity;

11. All statistics of any nature gathered in the course of the ‘bounty program’ investigation relating to penalties assessed against Mr. Vilma and all other New Orleans Saints players during the years 2009 – 2011;

12. All game film of New Orleans Saints games and players gathered in the course of the `bounty program’ investigation of exhibition games, regular season games and playoff and championship games during the years 2009 – 2011;

13. All tape recordings of any sort gathered in the course of the ‘bounty program’ investigation relating to meetings of any sort that occurred during the years 2009 – 2011;

14. All witness statements, notes of interviews and declarations gathered during the course of the ‘bounty program’ investigation;

15. The names and identification of all persons interviewed by the NFL and all persons acting on behalf of the NFL during the course of the ‘bounty program’ investigation;

16. The names and identification of all witnesses the NFL plans to present at Mr. Vilma’s Appeal Hearing; and

17. All evidence the NFL plans to offer or use in any manner at Mr. Vilma’s Appeal Hearing."
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Old 05-09-2012, 11:07 PM   #12
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Show us the evidence that he did it, or show us evidence that he didn't. LOVE...IT...

Now let's watch the NFL's spin machine go to work. EFF YOU ROGER!
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Old 05-09-2012, 11:38 PM   #13
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Wow..that's a pretty thorough list. Think it about covers it!
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:04 AM   #14
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I love it!!! Burn, Roger, Burn!!!
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:24 AM   #15
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After reading what Vilma's lawyer is requesting; I'm going to go ahead and say it... Vilma is going to win this one!
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:20 AM   #16
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I hope you are right. But come on he can't be that stupid to say he has X amount of pages, and this investigation has been going on for three years. Or can he??
I think its all circumstantial. He said she said evidence.
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Old 05-10-2012, 07:02 AM   #17
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... glad to see this moving out of the court of public opinion/media and into a real court, .
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:08 AM   #18
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Did the NFL tweat back? "Your not the boss of me"

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Old 05-10-2012, 12:56 PM   #19
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Roger Goodell in his native habitat...

AWESOME !!!!!!!!
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Old 05-10-2012, 01:34 PM   #20
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I worked in a Financial institution for a while and had to sign several DoJ, SEC, FINRA legal statements regarding compliance.

The request asks for "All documents". I would have thought it would have specifically stated physical or electronic documentation, backup tapes, USB devices like some of the documents I signed previously.

As far as e-mail, there are ways to get it off a messaging system, but depending on how it is pulled out it can become useless in a court due to the possibility of tampering.
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