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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; This whole, (They turned my words around) crap; is just that, crap. Anthony, I know you are mad because the Saints didn't keep you. However, when words are written and you have these thingies (" ") it means qouted. It ...

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Old 05-10-2012, 09:02 AM   #11
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This whole, (They turned my words around) crap; is just that, crap.

Anthony,

I know you are mad because the Saints didn't keep you. However, when words are written and you have these thingies (" ") it means qouted. It tells people this is what you or someone else said.

You signed this document. If you didn't read it before you signed it then you Sir, are an idiot. You have just told every team, player, owner, coach and fan; that you will cover your own butt and throw whoever under the bus. By lying or telling the truth.

You dug this whole on your own. Hope you enjoy the view.
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:16 AM   #12
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This whole, (They turned my words around) crap; is just that, crap.

Anthony,

I know you are mad because the Saints didn't keep you. However, when words are written and you have these thingies (" ") it means qouted. It tells people this is what you or someone else said.

You signed this document. If you didn't read it before you signed it then you Sir, are an idiot. You have just told every team, player, owner, coach and fan; that you will cover your own butt and throw whoever under the bus. By lying or telling the truth.

You dug this whole on your own. Hope you enjoy the view.
So there in lies the question.

Did he tell the truth and then lie as directed to by the NFL?
Did he lie as directed to by Williams then tell the truth to cover? (he still got punished so I do not know what he was getting)
Did he lie on both accounts and somewhere in the middle is the truth?


In any account he looks like a dumbazz that is always looking out for Numero Uno.
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:54 AM   #13
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Same crap with Chris Carter.

We all know Chris Carter was not the most liked team mate.

He is saying he put "Bounties" on players. (But they aren't like the Saints' bounties)

He says Romonoski said "I'm gonna end your career Carter!" ( Romo says he never said those words to a player, ever.)

The entire NFL is in a mess right now with only Roger Godell to blame.

Ok, if he did or didn't tell the Saints to stop the "bounty" program is beside the point. Roger should have done the following in my opinion.

1. KEEP THIS IN THE NFL AND OUT OF THE MEDIA! POLICE YOURSELF!

2. During the Annual Owners/Coaches/NFL heads meeting. He should have addressed the deal with them and told ALL OF THEM, he was aware of what was going on and made them sign the stupid memorandum that ALL OF THEM are to stop the "bounty" programs, effective immediately. With punishment to follow if a team continues.

He failed to do this. If you crap in the bed, you don't tell everyone. You and your spouse clean it up and keep it between yourselves. Now you have players trying to keep their jobs (So to speak) willing to say whatever to "Clear" their names, and former players running off at the mouth without thinking about what they are saying (ie Kurt Warner: "My kids will never play football because it is a dangerous sport")(Chris Carter: "Hell yeah I put bounties on players. But they weren't bounties like the Saints")

You and only you are to blame for this crap Roger Godell! You tried to make a name for yourself and it is blowing up in your face! You have crapped in your own bed my friend and the whole World is watching you try to put the blame on others. All the while, you still have poop all over you.

You desreve whatever happens to you.
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:57 AM   #14
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Here is a document I would LOVE to see....

Dear Saints,


Stop your bounty program.

Roger Goodell
2009



IF it exists.
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This whole thing should have been an internal NFL family matter.
But the way it was handled has caused it to be front page gossip column news.
From the looks of it, it's going to be news for a while.
Everytime someone gets blown up, some talking head is going to ask if a bounty
was put out on that guy.
Every new injury will break the crust on this turd and stir up the stink once again.
It's not going away.
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Because of the way Roger chose to handle this thing, the NFL must now police language. If a coach tells a player to "knock the crap out of that guy"...I mean...the league can, on Roger's whim, take that to mean the coach has instructed the player to disembowel the other guy.

Good job Roger...you freakin tool...
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Because of the way Roger chose to handle this thing, the NFL must now police language. If a coach tells a player to "knock the crap out of that guy"...I mean...the league can, on Roger's whim, take that to mean the coach has instructed the player to disembowel the other guy.

Good job Roger...you freakin tool...
And having crap every where would be a bio-hazard and jeopardize player safety.
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:27 AM   #18
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I think it was the media who mischaracterized his statement. Does Hargrove say at any point that he was told to lie? Seems to me like the statement was very carefully worded to avoid saying that he actually lied to the league.
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everything gets twisted.
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Old 05-10-2012, 11:38 AM   #20
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Well I'm confused. I think his suspension was reduced because he gave the NFL what they wanted. Regardless if whether it is true or not. Sounds like sour grapes to me. Still don't understand what was mischaracterized. Being let go by the Saints is motivation enough for one to take revenge.

When did he give his sworn statement & why didn't Goodell act sooner rather than 3 years later?
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