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hagan714 05-12-2012 12:29 PM

Scheme Adjustment the Team Should Consider in 2012
 
New Orleans Saints: Scheme Adjustment the Team Should Consider in 2012

By Jason Bernos
(Featured Columnist) on May 11, 2012


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In 2012, the New Orleans Saints will have a new defensive coordinator on hand in Steve Spagnuolo. He will add his own adjustments to the Saints defensive ways.

In that case, I take a look at an area on the team that has substantial depth, but only one "starting" spot: running back. That is a position that has way too many good players and not enough spots. I thought adding another spot would spice things up in the new year.

Can you think of any way for Pete Carmichael Jr. to get out from the shadows of offensive wiz, Sean Payton?

How about creating a new, innovative offensive scheme like the Wildcat was in 2008?

The answer? Two RB backfield.

The Dallas Cowboys attempted it with Marion Barber and Felix Jones to no avail, but the Saints have the depth to make it a winner. Now, I know what you're thinking. Shared backfields are nothing new; they've been around for years now.

I am not talking about rotating guys in and running behind a fullback. We all know the fullback position has gone the way of the ground-and-pound method. It's still around, and nice when needed, but just a bystander in this generation's NFL.

I am talking about rotating in two legit running backs into the game. Keeping them fresh, while also having a power/speed option in the backfield.

Imagine a Mark Ingram/Darren Sproles backfield, or a Chris Ivory/Pierre Thomas one. Those combos would be sick when you also consider they would go with a Jimmy Graham/Marques Colston combo in the passing lanes.
The New England Patriots started the two tight end craze, why can't the Saints start their own trend, and get people's minds off the whole bounty scandal. It will never happen, but when you have that many quality players at one position, you have to figure out a way to get more playing time for everyone.

That would be a scary concept for the other 31 teams trying to invade NOLA in early February.

New Orleans Saints: Scheme Adjustment the Team Should Consider in 2012 | Bleacher Report

saintsfan1976 05-12-2012 12:57 PM

Which RB combo on our team is durable enough to handle this??

Tobias-Reiper 05-12-2012 01:08 PM

Has this dude's stoning been scheduled, or is it just first come, first stone thrown? Is it BYOS?

Danno 05-12-2012 01:13 PM

We did it with Reggie and currently do it with Sproles.

This isn't exactly new, unless he's suggesting we do it all the time.

Rugby Saint II 05-12-2012 02:44 PM

What an idiot.....out from under the shadow of Sean Payton....give me a break.:roll:

hagan714 05-12-2012 03:35 PM

lmao agreed

Danno 05-12-2012 03:50 PM

I'm not sure what you guys are ridiculing.

A 2 RB set would work work pretty well in our offense. Its worked well in the past with Bush/Thomas, although Bush was technically being used as a WR but thats kinda what he's referring to isn't it?

I'd have no problem with with
2 RB (Sproles/Ingram, or Sproles/PT, or Sproles/Ivory)
1TE - Graham
2 WR - Colston/Henderson

I guess what I don't understand is that we already do this, just not frequently.

FinSaint 05-13-2012 01:31 AM

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hagan714 05-13-2012 06:23 AM

we do it already. i think he wants use to do it more. bleacher report has been suggesting we become a run heavy team in more than one write up.

jeanpierre 05-13-2012 08:08 AM

It is the having the personnel to run multiple sets that keeps the opposing defenses and their staff up and they're tired by game day...

You don't want to run one of too many sets, or the defense will figure it out...

You keep changing the looks and the opponent can't keep up...

That's how we roll...

jlouhill 05-13-2012 08:29 PM

If it ain't broke...

jeanpierre 05-13-2012 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlouhill (Post 405291)
If it ain't broke...

There you geaux...:bng:

TheOak 05-14-2012 09:50 AM

I stop reading when the version of "sick" used is the one from Urban Dictionary.

Danno 05-14-2012 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 405371)
I stop reading when the version of "sick" used is the one from Urban Dictionary.

Word homie.

Beastmode 05-14-2012 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 405127)
We did it with Reggie and currently do it with Sproles.

This isn't exactly new, unless he's suggesting we do it all the time.

And neither is the two TE system. Colston, is a quasi WR. He runs the same routes as a TE.

Brandon428 05-14-2012 11:09 AM

I'm all for a wildcat option. I think it should open up things even more for us and really frustrate the hell out of the opposing team when it comes to game planning.

Danno 05-14-2012 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon428 (Post 405382)
I'm all for a wildcat option. I think it should open up things even more for us and really frustrate the hell out of the opposing team when it comes to game planning.

I disagree. Why take the ball out of Drew's hands?

And we're already a nightmare to gameplan against.

SapperSaint 05-14-2012 02:32 PM

Just say no to "WildCat"!

Push yourself away from the keyboard and remain calm.

Brandon428 05-14-2012 02:48 PM

Even if we just use it as a gimmick I think it could really open the pass. I’m the type of person that always tries to innovate make something better. I just think with such a prolific offense there is more to be discovered there.

FinSaint 05-14-2012 03:29 PM

Definitely NO to WildCat offense!

And WC doesn't stand for innovation anymore, it's living in the past.

Teams that don't have as good of an offense as the Saints do need to use such gimmicks in an effort to confuse the defense - the Saints don't because they are that good that they can beat the other guys straight on.

And furthermore, what's truly innovative is SP's play creation and situational playcalling - the book probably stays the same in most areas, but we'll see PC's true capabilities as a playcaller this coming season.

TheOak 05-14-2012 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon428 (Post 405418)
Even if we just use it as a gimmick I think it could really open the pass. I’m the type of person that always tries to innovate make something better. I just think with such a prolific offense there is more to be discovered there.

"Out of the box:" thinking is great.

However, on this one, I am going to go with the cat that made the offense prolific.

No need to make it prophylactic.

Lets let the new owners of Tebow handle the WildCat.

|Mitch| 05-14-2012 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 405430)
Lets let the new owners of Tebow handle the WildCat.

Yep!

Who needs gimmicks, they can't even stop us now...

SapperSaint 05-15-2012 08:09 AM

WildCat = Gimmick

Gimmick = desparate

Saints Offense = not desparate

Saints Defense = jury is waiting for more evidence

FinSaint 05-15-2012 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SapperSaint (Post 405572)
WildCat = Gimmick

Gimmick = desparate

Saints Offense = not desparate

Saints Defense = jury is waiting for more evidence



So, in other words, what you're saying is that the Saints need a WildCat defense? http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/ae...smiley-025.gif

darstep 05-15-2012 10:26 AM

No wildcat! PLEASE!
The Saints two-back set is already part of a vast array of options we currently use.
Two-backs with one in motion,
Two-backs with run/screen to either side,
Two-backs save one for chipping and a safety valve,
Two-backs with one isolated one-on-one with a linebacker,
We already rip teams apart with this formation.
Just don't take Brees off the field until the extra point.

SaintsBro 05-15-2012 10:31 AM

One of these days you are going to see a crazy fake flea-flicker or fake reverse type play involving Lance Moore throwing a humongous bomb down the field, but I think that's as close to a wildcat as the Saints will ever get. Someone (can't remember if it was Drew or someone else) once hinted that Lance can throw the ball deep, back in the days when he was sometimes listed as emergency 3rd QB.

darstep 05-15-2012 10:36 AM

Lance Moore is probably a good punter and a good undersized cornerback also.
He just rolls like that. That boy is a player!

Rugby Saint II 05-15-2012 11:21 AM

I love Lance. I was so happy that he resigned with the Saints last year.


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