I like both but would love for Kasey to stick around another year. I know thats blasphemy to some.

Hartley:

1. In three year in the NFL has yet to play 16 games in one season.

2. FG % has been on the decline since year 1.

3. In 2010 he was only 66% from 20-29 yards.

4. In 2010 FG% across the NFL he was 28th.

5. In 2010 FG% 20-29 yards he was 38th.


I do not see where he is "Money".... Actually his leg has cost us in a few vital games... OT Chip shot from the 19 yard line miss against Atlanta ring a bell?

We beat the Colts 31-17... How did Hartley win a Super Bowl? 31-9 still equals 22-17 victory.

Where in the hell is all of this love coming from?

Not a big sHartley fan. He cost us some big games. His miss in the ATL game cost us HFA in 2010. With a week off to heal our team, we win it all that year.

I'd rather have Kasay, but I'm afraid his contract will force us to keep him.

Hartley's Stat's look bad he got some kicks in crutial times but he has a lot to prove. To be an elite kicker he has a long way to go. When this starts I will be glad to know we have Kasay.

Kasay. Take the hit on the cap and be done with it already...

But open competition - it's the American Way...


...except when a bunch of Tammany Hall or Daley Chicago Machine types have got the fix in...

It would not be impossible to keep both. I'm never nervous with Kasay. One of the games all-time bests. Hartley having to prove himself may be the final motivation he needs. It's Hartley's job to earn. Kasay won't lose it.

Great snapshot point - but, if playing in the NFL and getting paid like that is not enough motivation...

well, then Hartlet needs to join the Ma-rines and spend some time with R. Lee Ermey...